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Baggabonez


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"The funny thing is it's easier to learn than the offense I had at Florida State," he told SiriusXM NFL Radio. "It's a true West Coast-type progression offense. That's really what I wanted when I was coming through the pre-draft process. I wanted something that I could just go in and say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, check it down and run it. That's it, it's that simple. I love it."

He said he spent extensive time during the Bills' rookie minicamp and organized team activities working with offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.

"I've done great. The learning curve for me is a lot shorter simply because of what I had at Florida State. [The Seminoles' offense is] more complex and a little bit harder to catch on and learn. This offense is very simple. I've done a great job with it," he said in the interview.



you dudes are pretend analysts and it's hilarious. Yes, i'll take your word over a guy who actually played there.


Surly much?

Look at FSU QB prospects. Lots of collegiate production, pedestrian production in the pros. The proof is in the pudding.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
aburre21 wrote:
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"The funny thing is it's easier to learn than the offense I had at Florida State," he told SiriusXM NFL Radio. "It's a true West Coast-type progression offense. That's really what I wanted when I was coming through the pre-draft process. I wanted something that I could just go in and say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, check it down and run it. That's it, it's that simple. I love it."

He said he spent extensive time during the Bills' rookie minicamp and organized team activities working with offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.

"I've done great. The learning curve for me is a lot shorter simply because of what I had at Florida State. [The Seminoles' offense is] more complex and a little bit harder to catch on and learn. This offense is very simple. I've done a great job with it," he said in the interview.



you dudes are pretend analysts and it's hilarious. Yes, i'll take your word over a guy who actually played there.


Surly much?

Look at FSU QB prospects. Lots of collegiate production, pedestrian production in the pros. The proof is in the pudding.


look at EJ Manuel's production...look at Ponder's production. It's nowhere near being close to Jameis Winston's. I'll post the numbers for you if you want.

Christian Ponder

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Year            School Conf Class Pos  G  Cmp Att  Pct  Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int  Rate
*2007    Florida State  ACC        QB  1    8  18 44.4  105 5.8  1.9  1   2  89.6
*2008    Florida State  ACC        QB 13  177 318 55.7 2006 6.3  5.3 14  13 115.0
*2009    Florida State  ACC        QB  9  227 330 68.8 2717 8.2  8.1 14   7 147.7
*2010    Florida State  ACC        QB 12  184 299 61.5 2044 6.8  7.0 20   8 135.7
Career   Florida State                    596 965 61.8 6872 7.1  6.7 49  30 132.1
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EJ Manuel

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Year            School Conf Class Pos  G  Cmp Att  Pct  Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int  Rate
*2009    Florida State  ACC        QB  7   69 106 65.1  817 7.7  5.5  2   6 124.7
*2010    Florida State  ACC        QB 10   65  93 69.9  861 9.3  8.2  4   4 153.3
*2011    Florida State  ACC        QB 12  203 311 65.3 2666 8.6  8.6 18   8 151.2
*2012    Florida State  ACC        QB 14  263 387 68.0 3397 8.8  8.8 23  10 156.1
Career   Florida State                    600 897 66.9 7741 8.6  8.3 47  28 150.4
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There stats are no better than Kevin Hogan....Andrew Luck's replacement.

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Year       School   Conf Class Pos  G  Cmp Att  Pct  Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int  Rate
*2012    Stanford Pac-12        QB 10  109 152 71.7 1096 7.2  7.5  9   3 147.9
2013     Stanford Pac-12    JR  QB 14  180 295 61.0 2630 8.9  8.7 20  10 151.5
Career   Stanford                      289 447 64.7 3726 8.3  8.3 29  13 150.3
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
Surly much?

Look at FSU QB prospects. Lots of collegiate production, pedestrian production in the pros. The proof is in the pudding.


I wouldn't say that Ponder or Manuel really produced that much at the collegiate level, neither guy ever put up numbers even remotely close to what Winston put up this past season.

Ponder is starting to look like a guy that'll be a spot starter but the jury is still out on Manuel who showed flashes last season.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just my opinion but the only quarterback prospect that I would feel comfortable taking and labeling our quarterback of the future in this years class is Bridgewater.

I'd feel more comfortable just riding it out and trying to find the right guy to build around as opposed to taking someone just for the hell of it. I initially really liked Blake Bortles but after watching some more tape I'm kind of skeptical if he's really worth an early selection. I liked David Carr too but his performance against USC kind of drew some red flags for me as well.

I'm not really in favor of using a mid-round pick on another quarterback prospect though because of what happened with Wilson this past season.
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