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NCPackFan


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChaRisMa wrote:
When I do mine, I always go position by position with value to the Packers.

I'd start at safety, because it seems to be the position we've all spent the most time investigating. Since I'm bored and this is where I've spent a lot of my time, here's my top safety rankings:

1. Hasean Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama. Late 1st.
2. Ed Reynolds jr, S, Stanford. Mid 2nd.
3. Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville. Late 2nd.
4. Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State. Late 2nd.

Come at me bros.


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I like your thinking here. I disagree on the Calvin Pryor and Ed Reynolds rankings. I think Bucannon should be higher than they are.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCPackFan wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
When I do mine, I always go position by position with value to the Packers.

I'd start at safety, because it seems to be the position we've all spent the most time investigating. Since I'm bored and this is where I've spent a lot of my time, here's my top safety rankings:

1. Hasean Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama. Late 1st.
2. Ed Reynolds jr, S, Stanford. Mid 2nd.
3. Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville. Late 2nd.
4. Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State. Late 2nd.

Come at me bros.


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I like your thinking here. I disagree on the Calvin Pryor and Ed Reynolds rankings. I think Bucannon should be higher than they are.


I really like Deone Bucannon, but do you think he could play more of a FS role than a SS? The only problem I see is that him and Burnett both seem more fit for a SS role, and this defense really needs a centerfield speedster in my opinion. Bucannons and HaHa's 40 times are pretty similar however.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burnett isn't really a true SS either though. I think a pair of swing type S might be good in this defense as long as both are at least OK when used deep.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilltray wrote:
Burnett isn't really a true SS either though. I think a pair of swing type S might be good in this defense as long as both are at least OK when used deep.


Flexibility is the key to disguise and more importantly it allows the coaches to adapt to the roster as it changes through the season. Drafting of flexible type players is a trend we have certainly seen for the Packers offense as well as defense.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to go with my top-5 in each position scratching ST players.

NOTE: I'm basing these rankings off of players who are currently most likely to fall to us. For example, Jake Matthews, Blake Bortles, Sammy Watkins, and Kony Ealy are players who I have not ranked simply because they will not be on the board when we draft at 21. I have also ranked these players by the earliest round we would legitimately draft these players. For example, We're not drafting QB in the first, or RB in the 4th. Also, for positions of greatest need(ie: TE, S, OLB, ILB,) and WR I've gone 10 deep.


QB:(4th)
AJ McCarron, Alabama
Connor Shaw, South Carolina
Aaron Murray, Georgia
Logan Thomas, Va. Tech
Jordan Lynch, Northern IL

RB/FB:(7th/UDFA)
Ryan Hewitt, Stanford, FB
Silas Redd, USC, RB
Alfred Blue, LSU, RB
Lorenzo Taliaferro, Coastal Carolina(possible FB)
Chris Coyle, Arizona State, FB

WR:(2nd)
Marquise Lee, USC
Jarvis Landry, LSU
Brandin Cooks, Oregon St.
Odell Beckham Jr.
Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt
Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin
Josh Huff, Oregon
L'Damian Washington, Missouri
Cory Latimer, Indiana
Tevin Reese, Baylor


TE:(any)
Eric Ebron, North Carolina
Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington
Jace Amaro, Texas A&M
C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa
Troy Niklas, Notre Dame
Marcel Jensen, Fresno St.
Jacob Pedersen, Wisconsin
Richard Rogers, California
Arthur Lynch, Georgia
Crockett Gilmore, Colorado St.

OL:(7th/UDFA)
Charles Leno, Boise St.
Austin Wentworth, Fresno St.
Wesley Johnson, Vanderbilt
James Stone, Tennessee
Jonotthan Harrison, Florida

DE:(any)
RaShede Hagaman, Minnesota(I totally get the hype)
Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame
Timmy Jernigan, Florida St.
Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina
Domnique Easley, Florida
DaQuan Jones, Penn St.(possible NT)
Caraun Reid, Princeton
Anthony Johnson, LSU
Ed Stinson, Alabama
Chris Whaley, Texas

NT:(3rd)
Daniel McCullers, Tennessee
Beau Allen, Wisconsin
Ryan Carrethers, Arkansas St.
Justin Ellis, Louisiana Tech.
Zach Kerr, Deleware

OLB:(3rd)
Dee Ford, Auburn
Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech.
Marcus Smith, Louisville
James Gayle, Virginia Tech.
Trevor Reilly, Utah
Michael Sam, Missouri
Demarcus Lawrence, Boise St.
Ronald Powell, Florida
Derrell Johnson, East Carolina
Prince Shembo, Notre Dame

ILB:(3rd)
C.J. Moseley, Alabama
Christian Jones, Florida St.
Chris Borland, Wisconsin
Kyle Van Noy, Brigham Young
Yawin Smallwood, Connecticut
Shayne Skov, Stanford
Jordan Zumwalt, UCLA
Lamin Barrow, LSU
Andrew Jackson, Western Kentucky
Jeremiah George, Iowa St.

CB:(any)
Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma St.
Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech.
Aaron Colvin, Oklahoma
Keith McGill, Utah
Jaylen Watkins, Florida(possible Safety)
Louchiez Purifoy, Florida
Marcus Roberson, Florida
Keon Lyn, Syracuse
Deion Belue, Alabama
Rashaad Reynolds, Oregon St.

FS:(any)
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama
Terrence Brooks, Florida St.
Bradley Roby, Ohio St.
Jemea Thomas, Georgia Tech.
Ed Reynolds, Stanford
Tre Boston, North Carolina
Nickoe Whitley, Mississippi St.
Chris Davis, Auburn
Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska
Calvin Pryor, Louisville

SS:(any)
Deone Bucannon, Washington St.
Vinnie Sunseri, Alabama
Hakeem Smith, Louisville
Ahmad Dixon, Baylor
Craig Loston, LSU
Jimmie Ward, Northern IL
Isaiah Lewis, Michigan St.
Ty Zimmerman, Kansas St.
Sean Parker, Washington
Brock Vereen, Minnesota
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 1st on Matthews.

Desir is worth at least a 3rd as a CB/FS.

Is Daniel Mccullers too tall to play NT?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilltray wrote:
Burnett isn't really a true SS either though. I think a pair of swing type S might be good in this defense as long as both are at least OK when used deep.


Which is why Bucannon would make sense. I think Bucannon will improve his 40 time at the combine.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumps are against the rules, so this isn't a bump.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been physically messed up (back, left knee, IR'd through 2014 season), so I haven't been putting effort forth in studying up on prospects. Plus we got the extra month this year. Got my quarterbacks almost done.

Manziel isn't on my board.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCPackFan wrote:
I'm going to go with my top-5 in each position scratching ST players.

NOTE: I'm basing these rankings off of players who are currently most likely to fall to us. For example, Jake Matthews, Blake Bortles, Sammy Watkins, and Kony Ealy are players who I have not ranked simply because they will not be on the board when we draft at 21. I have also ranked these players by the earliest round we would legitimately draft these players. For example, We're not drafting QB in the first, or RB in the 4th. Also, for positions of greatest need(ie: TE, S, OLB, ILB,) and WR I've gone 10 deep.

OL:(7th/UDFA)
Charles Leno, Boise St.
Austin Wentworth, Fresno St.
Wesley Johnson, Vanderbilt
James Stone, Tennessee
Jonotthan Harrison, Florida


Thompson's only had two years where he has taken 1 OL -- 2011 & 2007. The rest of the time he's taken at least 2. Mostly around the 4th round, but he's got a healthy amount of 1-3 rounders. Should I take this to mean that you don't believe we're drafting offensive linemen until the 7th round, if at all?
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