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Colton

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:07 pm Post subject:

ColtsFan40 wrote:

NickZambo wrote:

Play calling aside, from the Colts games I've watched on Sunday ticket, it appears that Donald Brown runs with more explosiveness than Trent.

Do you mean the guy that has 2083 yards through 4 1/2 season? That guy? The guy who is only stepping up in his contract year. Surely you don't mean that Donald Brown! You must be talking about someone else.

Well, it may be a contract year, but there's no denying that Brown looks better than he ever has as a pro. He doesn't dance, he just goes.

But, he's also been given limited carries, which seems to have added to his enhanced explosiveness. He isn't a 20-25 touches a game guy right now, but is a percect compliment guy who should touch the ball 12-15 times a game I think (in run and pass game)

ColtsFan40

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:56 am Post subject:

Colton wrote:

ColtsFan40 wrote:

NickZambo wrote:

Play calling aside, from the Colts games I've watched on Sunday ticket, it appears that Donald Brown runs with more explosiveness than Trent.

I agree that he is better suited for his current role. I was just point out to the Richardson haters that keep showing up that up to this point Brown has been a bust too.
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:08 pm Post subject:

ColtsFan40 wrote:

Colton wrote:

ColtsFan40 wrote:

NickZambo wrote:

Play calling aside, from the Colts games I've watched on Sunday ticket, it appears that Donald Brown runs with more explosiveness than Trent.

I agree that he is better suited for his current role. I was just point out to the Richardson haters that keep showing up that up to this point Brown has been a bust too.

Yeah Brown has been a bust for sure; I took a gamble on him in fantasy when he came out of UConn and have followed his mediocre career since. I’m just saying he looks like a shot out of a cannon compared to the bunny hopper that is Trent. Also, I'm not a Richardson hater, just keeping up on the supposed fleecing Indy did on the Browns.
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wayne87reggie

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject:

NickZambo wrote:

Who said Indy fleeced the Browns? NFL Gen has been saying the Browns fleeced the Colts, since before the trade even happened it seems...

I loved the trade when it happened, and despite how everything has played out up to this point, I still love it.

Crazy as that makes me, but I think just about every Colts fan that actually sets and watches the game, would say he hasnt been given the opportunity to do anything here.

Im a patient man, this trade affects more than this year. I know push come to shove(Brown getting hurt), T-Rich can step in and play every down.
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:49 pm Post subject:

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joru1000

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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:20 pm Post subject:

stallyns wrote:

joru1000 wrote:

cody513 wrote:

joru1000 wrote:

you guys gave up too much for him. the browns obviously knew he was turning into a bust, and wanted to unload him before the 'bust' title became consensus with the fans.

If he was a bust a team wouldn't even entertain trading a 1st rd pick in return for a player considering you get major building blocks from your early round picks...

Good move by you guys. T-Rich is a monster. I think you guys gave a little too much, but your a contender and adding a young stud can't hurt your team...will just make you guys that much tougher.

What has he done in the NFL that is worthy of the title as a 'Monster'? He has 2 runs over 20 yards in 250+ carries, and his career long os a 32td. He has a 3.5 ypc too. Compare that to Peterson and McFadden, 2 guys Richardson was compared too (and both of whom were in team situations similar to what Richardson was in in Cleveland), he has been mediocre at best.

I'll take the word of the Brown's fan who broke down actual game material proving the exact opposite of almost everything you said.

So how is Trent working out?

stallyns

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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:22 pm Post subject:

joru1000 wrote:

So how is Trent working out?

Speaking as a guy who doesn't watch the games and only follows stat lines. He's the worst player I've EVER seen

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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:00 pm Post subject:

Pretend the NFL has a WAR stat, where 10 is Peyton Manning and 1 is the floor where does Trent stand?
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:36 pm Post subject:

stallyns wrote:

joru1000 wrote:

So how is Trent working out?

Speaking as a guy who doesn't watch the games and only follows stat lines. He's the worst player I've EVER seen

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I don't know if that guy is a Browns fan or not but if so sorry.

Yes we in the Browns forum love this trade but it doesn't mean we have to come in here and troll you which I'm sure is getting annoying.

I for one actually hope he does well but have to be honest and am doubting it's going to happen.
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:50 pm Post subject:

hornbybrown wrote:

stallyns wrote:

joru1000 wrote:

So how is Trent working out?

Speaking as a guy who doesn't watch the games and only follows stat lines. He's the worst player I've EVER seen

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I believe Joru is an Eagles fan
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BrownsAndBeers

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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:55 pm Post subject:

hornbybrown wrote:

stallyns wrote:

joru1000 wrote:

So how is Trent working out?

Speaking as a guy who doesn't watch the games and only follows stat lines. He's the worst player I've EVER seen

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Yeah some Browns fans in here werent trolling. If you read past posts they were wishing Trent and the Colts well. Either way it was a win win, Indy get a stud running back and in CLE it's nice to have another first, although it is gonig to be a low first.
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:34 pm Post subject:

Deadpulse wrote:

Pretend the NFL has a WAR stat, where 10 is Peyton Manning and 1 is the floor where does Trent stand?

I'd say a 4, right now he has only proven that he can excel as a one trick pony (short yardage back) if Pep would find a way to adjust the offense to his strengths (not easily done mid season, I understand this) he could become so much more
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:45 pm Post subject:

nugpimpen wrote:

hornbybrown wrote:

stallyns wrote:

joru1000 wrote:

So how is Trent working out?

Speaking as a guy who doesn't watch the games and only follows stat lines. He's the worst player I've EVER seen

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I believe Joru is an Eagles fan

No, we have a Jonu, have no idea who Joru is.
Don't mind me, just trying to get some info on one of my fantasy RBs Laughing

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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:46 pm Post subject:

stallyns wrote:

Deadpulse wrote:

Pretend the NFL has a WAR stat, where 10 is Peyton Manning and 1 is the floor where does Trent stand?

Is a late-season turnaround feasible at all stallyns?
Or are we talking about adjustments that will be made during the offseason?
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject:

Phire wrote:

stallyns wrote:

Deadpulse wrote:

Pretend the NFL has a WAR stat, where 10 is Peyton Manning and 1 is the floor where does Trent stand?

Is a late-season turnaround feasible at all stallyns?
Or are we talking about adjustments that will be made during the offseason?

from an ideology stand point, Grigson and Pagano have pushed the power run/stop the run narrative since before last season. While we've seen them use Richardson in that way, kinda, they haven't found ways to get yards with him. As someone pointed out in the NFL gen thread. In a recent game all his runs up the middle and to the right gained little or no yards but his two runs to the left side got 5 and 7 yard gains. 8 rushes 20 yards and more then half of those yards came going to the left. And what did we do this past game? 5 carries and I don't have the breakdown because NFL.com is being a pain.
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