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MrCincinnati


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hokie wrote:
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I remember hearing about this Kheeston Randall guy before the NFL Draft. Could of very well been a 1st round pick at one point.

This is all I could get on the guy

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/kheeston-randall?id=2532935

Could be helpful against the run but thats about it. Pretty much useless in passing situations.


Assuming Still is out, I assume Randle will get a handful of snaps on 1st/2nd down and obvious run situations. For passing situations, we'll likely shift Gilberry, Hunt, and possibly even Dunlap inside. Could even see Harrison line up at DE in some obvious passing situations, as he did in garbage time vs the Jets. It's not ideal, but I don't think we have much of a choice at this point.

I don't think our run defense is going to lose much without Atkins, to be honest. Thompson is stellar against the run, so we shouldn't have too much of a dropoff there. Passing situations is where it's really going to hurt, as Geno is the most consistently disruptive interior lineman (in passing situations) in the NFL. He requires excess attention, so I don't think we're going to see Dunlap and Johnson get as many 1 on 1 situations.

Guys will have to step up. I'm sure they'll fill in admirably, but there's no replacing Geno. I'm curious to see how we fare without him this weekend. Does Zimmer dial up more blitzes? Or does he just rush four as usual? I'm guessing he'll blitz more, because if you give Flacco all day he'll kill you. We're going to have to get pressure, one way or another.


I'm not sure how its gonna work out at first. I don't expect alot of snaps for Randall in his first game. Probably use him alot more on shorter downs, instead of longer downs. Margus Hunt will have to play more in DT situations now I think.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

INbengalfan wrote:
LondonBengal wrote:
theJ wrote:
Welp, losing Geno was bad. But at least we're not packers fans today.


.....and that's why I love this league, you never know whats going to happen next; all the teams are one snap away from being ordinary. It sucks when its one of your guys, but there it is.

In European football, the owner just goes out and spends 20M on a replacement, and you end up with a league where the wealthiest clubs win it all each year.


That's pretty much the NFL when you look at big vs. small market


Perhaps a topic for another thread, but I really don't look at it that way and never have.

If you look at English Football (Soccer), over the last 40 years there have only ever been 4 successful clubs out of 92, (Man.Utd/ Liverpool/ Arsenal & Chelsea). Others have had success where buckets of money has been there to spend. Most clubs outside the top six or so haven't got a sniff of winning the main prize and know they never will unless they are bought out by a zillionaire from the Middle East.

With the main European club soccer competition since 1955, 8 clubs; (Real Madrid/ AC Milan/ Bayern Munich/ Liverpool/ Barcelona/ Ajax/ Man.Utd/ Inter Milan), have won 40 of 59 competitions.

I love the NFL, because of the ebb and flow of success and failure, because the wealth is regulated by the draft and salary caps, and a lot more NFL success is dependant upon factors other than $$$$$'s, like good coaching, scouting and playing good poker with the draft. NFL games are generally close and exciting, and designed that way.

Witness Kansas City this year turning 2-14 into 9-0, and Snyders millions in DC counting for very little......

In Europe, the richest wins.
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INbengalfan


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of the regular season, you are right. As far as championships go, the pool is quite small, given the fact there are 32 teams.

But this is definitely another thread, particularly an off-season one.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

INbengalfan wrote:
In terms of the regular season, you are right. As far as championships go, the pool is quite small, given the fact there are 32 teams.

But this is definitely another thread, particularly an off-season one.


Agree 'INB'.

in fact there was am interesting article posted a while back on 'NFL-UK' which compared the 'share the wealth' objectives of the NFL, with the 'money dominates' ethos of the soccer world, and suggested that they were the opposite of the prevailing political world; the organisation of the 'NFL' being more akin to 'European socialism'......

As you said 'INB', maybe a topic for the off-season.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrCincinnati wrote:
I'm not sure how its gonna work out at first. I don't expect alot of snaps for Randall in his first game. Probably use him alot more on shorter downs, instead of longer downs. Margus Hunt will have to play more in DT situations now I think.


I don't think even Zimmer does at the moment.

He'll be trying lots of stunts and schemes to cross the Ravens up. He'll be hoping Peko and Thompson can keep the Ravens under control on 1st and 2nd down, and mix it up on 3rd down.

If I were the Ravens, I'd be considering going no-huddle or quick-snap after 2nd down to keep the Bengals D from changing personnel packages.

Its going to be a chess game out there Sunday.

Oh yeah; I'd also be looking to give plenty of deep shots to Torrey Smith whenever I could. Don't think we have anyone to keep control of him.
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