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mistakebytehlak
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| 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
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RaidersAreOne
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
Lombardi baby.
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Colts are out of the trade market, as expected by most of us the Colts elevated WR Griff Whalen from the PS today so we're going with Hilton, DHB, Brazill, Whalen and David Reed and of course Fleener
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
Draft status is irrelevant once drafted. Just because Cleveland spent a 2nd doesn't mean he is worth a 2nd. Further, his character concerns likely devalue Gordon as well.
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Estonianzulu
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| vikingsrule wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
Draft status is irrelevant once drafted. Just because Cleveland spent a 2nd doesn't mean he is worth a 2nd. Further, his character concerns likely devalue Gordon as well. |
Well... mistake didn't say "We drafted him in the 2nd why would he be worth a 2nd?"
He said" He outperformed expectations and is 22"
So, his point is still valid. If he has played like a #1 receiver (which he has) and is young, and was drafted in the 2nd round, why would he be worth a 2nd round pick?
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Estonianzulu wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
Draft status is irrelevant once drafted. Just because Cleveland spent a 2nd doesn't mean he is worth a 2nd. Further, his character concerns likely devalue Gordon as well. |
Well... mistake didn't say "We drafted him in the 2nd why would he be worth a 2nd?"
He said" He outperformed expectations and is 22"
So, his point is still valid. If he has played like a #1 receiver (which he has) and is young, and was drafted in the 2nd round, why would he be worth a 2nd round pick? |
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| RaidersAreOne wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
Lombardi baby. |
You mean the same guy who traded our bust RB for a first round pick? |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Estonianzulu wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
Draft status is irrelevant once drafted. Just because Cleveland spent a 2nd doesn't mean he is worth a 2nd. Further, his character concerns likely devalue Gordon as well. |
Well... mistake didn't say "We drafted him in the 2nd why would he be worth a 2nd?"
He said" He outperformed expectations and is 22"
So, his point is still valid. If he has played like a #1 receiver (which he has) and is young, and was drafted in the 2nd round, why would he be worth a 2nd round pick? |
Character concerns, the fact that he's a slip up away from sitting for a year, and the fact that he's only got 2 years left on his rookie deal?
I certainly if the Browns were able to get more than a 2nd + late pick for him it'd be a deal they should take a run fast. Gordon is a hell of a player -- but he's a risk.
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| Estonianzulu wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
Draft status is irrelevant once drafted. Just because Cleveland spent a 2nd doesn't mean he is worth a 2nd. Further, his character concerns likely devalue Gordon as well. |
Well... mistake didn't say "We drafted him in the 2nd why would he be worth a 2nd?"
He said" He outperformed expectations and is 22"
So, his point is still valid. If he has played like a #1 receiver (which he has) and is young, and was drafted in the 2nd round, why would he be worth a 2nd round pick? |
He is 22 and 1 poor decision away from missing an entire year. That's why he isn't worth as much.
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mistakebytehlak
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| faccda01 wrote: | | Estonianzulu wrote: | | vikingsrule wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | 91jmay wrote: | I would wait until the trade deadline, but seriously consider dealing our 2nd round pick for him. Whilst Raiders need draft picks like woah, we also need a number 1 WR. We have a very good number two, a solid number 3 but no number 1.
If we can win another game before the deadline, then I would be pretty confident we can win at least 7 on the year so would be willing to roll the dice on a 2nd. |
he was drafted with a 2nd round pick- outperformed expectations and is 22
why would we trade him away for a 2nd? |
Draft status is irrelevant once drafted. Just because Cleveland spent a 2nd doesn't mean he is worth a 2nd. Further, his character concerns likely devalue Gordon as well. |
Well... mistake didn't say "We drafted him in the 2nd why would he be worth a 2nd?"
He said" He outperformed expectations and is 22"
So, his point is still valid. If he has played like a #1 receiver (which he has) and is young, and was drafted in the 2nd round, why would he be worth a 2nd round pick? |
He is 22 and 1 poor decision away from missing an entire year. That's why he isn't worth as much. |
he's on pace for 1400 yards at age 22.
thats why he's worth more |
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Flaccomania
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: |
he's on pace for 1400 yards at age 22.
thats why he's worth more |
582 yards in and only 8 games to go.
Where did you get 1400?
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: |
he's on pace for 1400 yards at age 22.
thats why he's worth more |
582 yards in and only 8 games to go.
Where did you get 1400? |
guessing he rounded up, 1358.
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mistakebytehlak
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: |
he's on pace for 1400 yards at age 22.
thats why he's worth more |
582 yards in and only 8 games to go.
Where did you get 1400? |
582 through 6 games... |
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Flaccomania
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | Flaccomania wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: |
he's on pace for 1400 yards at age 22.
thats why he's worth more |
582 yards in and only 8 games to go.
Where did you get 1400? |
582 through 6 games... |
Except his suspension actually does come into play here because he misses time for his own decisions which is a downfall of his.
But regardless, even 6 games is 1552 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: | | Flaccomania wrote: | | mistakebytehlak wrote: |
he's on pace for 1400 yards at age 22.
thats why he's worth more |
582 yards in and only 8 games to go.
Where did you get 1400? |
582 through 6 games... |
Except his suspension actually does come into play here because he misses time for his own decisions which is a downfall of his.
But regardless, even 6 games is 1552 |
But if you do it for 14 games, it's 1358 yards. A bit shy of 1400, but not bad for 14 games.
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