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24isthelaw


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
I'd like to see a sub package of Buchanan-Jones-Jones-Carter up front with Ninkovich and Hightower/Spikes at LB.

A 3-4 base doesn't make sense other than a few select situations. Maybe in sub a 3-3-5 could work


I don't see the appeal of moving Ninkovich to be honest.

I'm not as big a fan of Ninkovich's pass rushing ability as most Pats fans are. But taking him off and replacing him with Carter or Buchanan (barring Carter finding the fountain of youth or Buchanan putting on 10 lbs of muscle) is at best a lateral move. And with him next to Hightower, you have the same problem you had to begin with - no one who can cover the Jeff Cumberlands off the world. The guy is a good cover man for a big guy... but so is Hightower. We need someone who is a good cover linebacker in a more absolute sense right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

24isthelaw wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
I'd like to see a sub package of Buchanan-Jones-Jones-Carter up front with Ninkovich and Hightower/Spikes at LB.

A 3-4 base doesn't make sense other than a few select situations. Maybe in sub a 3-3-5 could work


I don't see the appeal of moving Ninkovich to be honest.

I'm not as big a fan of Ninkovich's pass rushing ability as most Pats fans are. But taking him off and replacing him with Carter or Buchanan (barring Carter finding the fountain of youth or Buchanan putting on 10 lbs of muscle) is at best a lateral move. And with him next to Hightower, you have the same problem you had to begin with - no one who can cover the Jeff Cumberlands off the world. The guy is a good cover man for a big guy... but so is Hightower. We need someone who is a good cover linebacker in a more absolute sense right now.


Right but there aren't any coverage LBs out there who are useful. Going from Spikes/Hightower to Hightower/Ninkovich boosts the pass D and IMO doesn't lose much - if anything- in the run game.

I'm not sure if that's the plan but as far as in house options, Ninkovich playing in coverage might be an improvement. Collins has the ability to thrive in the role but his lack of playing time suggests the coaches don't think his mental game is developed enough. A guy getting burned because he's too slow is the same as getting burned because made a bad read.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninkovich played some LB/coverage against the Jets if some of you missed it. I expect a lot of reshuffling in the front. Maybe some new looks and more heavy looks. Wouldn't be surprise me at all to see a whole different base for the rest of the year so it'll be interesting to see what they put out there.
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