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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do people keep saying that Nicks will go to Carolina? Is it because he played college ball in NC? That's the only reason I think people keep speculating this.


That is the reason but people are oblivious to the fact Carolina has no cap room for him.

A large reason why Cruz didnt get the big deal he wanted is because we need money for Nicks.


This trade helps us get more right now we have 14-17 mill to carry over for next year. We take a hit in the trade with the cap but his contract will be gone. We have restructured a lot of contracts and made room.


I dont really understand the whole cap situation but dont you have a lot of money tied in Deangelo and Stewart.

I would be very surprised if Nicks ends up in Carolina


I don't know exact details, but Gettleman has been a man on a mission. He's been restructuring his butt off. And if I remember right, Williams was one of the players that restructured. But to answer the overarching question, yes, we have too much tied up in rbs.
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Williams really isn't that bad. His cap hit increases from 5 mil this year to 6 next, and then 6.3 in 2015. Stewart, on the other hand, is deeply concerning. 6 mil cap hit next year is manageable, but in 2015 his number balloons to 8.8 million, then 9.5 million in 2016. I honestly don't know how Gettleman's going to fix that mess.
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Jon deserves to start, so this is good.
Going to miss him. He was my favorite player. An elite talent.
Injuries killed him.
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I remember when Beason was giving Willis a run for his money for League's best ILB....injuries are terrible, man.
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I remember when Beason was giving Willis a run for his money for League's best ILB....injuries are terrible, man.


Absolutely. Terrible to see them derail what could be great careers.
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They will end up regretting this in the long run. He is a smart, and talented football player who can still be an asset once he fully recovers from injury.
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They will end up regretting this in the long run. He is a smart, and talented football player who can still be an asset once he fully recovers from injury.
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They will end up regretting this in the long run. He is a smart, and talented football player who can still be an asset once he fully recovers from injury.


He's been injured the past 2 years, only played 5 games. The games he played in this year, he didn't play well. He's a liability in coverage now since he can't move well.

The Panthers moved on from him when they drafted Keuchley and moved him into the MLB spot when Beason was out. They restructured his contract this past offseason so they could let him go with zero cost at the end of the season. Beason wanted to play MLB, so his weaknesses in coverage could be masked; he wasn't doing that in Carolina. Beason also wanted to start, he was not doing that either.

Basically the Giants are getting a rental for the rest of the season to see if Beason can be the man again in the middle. Beason will either succeed and be the man, or the injuries will get the best of him.
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I remember when Beason was giving Willis a run for his money for League's best ILB....injuries are terrible, man.


Absolutely. Terrible to see them derail what could be great careers.



What is sad is how many talented prospects there are that had a serious injury or is just injury prone in general. Danario Alexander is a perfect example. He would be on par with Aj Green and Megatron if he could stay healthy imo.
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RuskieTitan wrote:
imani wrote:
I remember when Beason was giving Willis a run for his money for League's best ILB....injuries are terrible, man.


Absolutely. Terrible to see them derail what could be great careers.



What is sad is how many talented prospects there are that had a serious injury or is just injury prone in general. Danario Alexander is a perfect example. He would be on par with Aj Green and Megatron if he could stay healthy imo.


Yeah. While he never would have gotten to us if he didn't have so many issues, last year showed how he had the potential to be a dominant receiver. Guy was just a monster. Real shame how he always gets injured. Malcom Floyd wouldn't be of the same caliber, but he could have put up big big numbers some years if he could have ever stayed healthy.
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RuskieTitan wrote:
imani wrote:
I remember when Beason was giving Willis a run for his money for League's best ILB....injuries are terrible, man.


Absolutely. Terrible to see them derail what could be great careers.



What is sad is how many talented prospects there are that had a serious injury or is just injury prone in general. Danario Alexander is a perfect example. He would be on par with Aj Green and Megatron if he could stay healthy imo.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was hoping the Giants would cough up a couple firsts for him, but that'll have to do.

This is actually a really really good move for the Giants. Shows they are yet to give up on the season.
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Was hoping the Giants would cough up a couple firsts for him, but that'll have to do.

This is actually a really really good move for the Giants. Shows they are yet to give up on the season.


Im hoping that the Giants can trade for Bruce Carter seen as he got benched. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decent pickup for the Giants. Beason's only 28 so he can pick things up and still be productive.
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They will end up regretting this in the long run. He is a smart, and talented football player who can still be an asset once he fully recovers from injury.


Not really. We're doing this to secure other players long term. Players like Greg Hardy. I love Beason. And I hope he does go to NY and resurrect his career. But he just isnt in our long term plans anymore.
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