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LuckIsGOAT


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:08 am    Post subject: My top 30 prospects regardless of class Reply with quote

Not a projection of where they will go just purely who I think are the best prospects regardless when they beccome draft eligible

1.Marquise Lee, USC, WR
2.Kyle Van Noy, BYU, LB
3.Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina, DE
4.Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri, WR
5.Lamarcus Joyner, Florida St, S or Nickel
6.Austin Seferian Jenkins, Washington, TE
7.Todd Gurley, Georgia, RB
8.David Johnson Northern Iowa, RB
9.Brett Hundley, UCLA, QB
10.Jameis Winston, Florida St, QB
11.Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame, DE
12.Will Sutton, Arizona St, DT
13.Amari Cooper, Alabama, WR
14.Shayne Skov, Stanford, LB
15.CJ Mosley, Alabama, LB
16.Stefon Diggs, Maryland, WR
17.Duke Johnson, Miami, RB
18.David Fales, San Jose St, QB
19.Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville, QB
20.Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, QB/WR
21.Dominique Easley, Florida, DT
22.Anthony Barr, UCLA, LB
23.Taylor Lewan, Michigan, OT
24.Tim Jerrigan, Florida St, DT
25.Cyrus Kouandijo, Alabama, OT
26.Antonio Richardson, Tennessee, OT
27.James Gayle, Virginia Tech, DE
28.Ed Reynolds, Stanford, S
29.Morgan Breslin, USC, DE
30.Sammy Watkins, Clemson, WR

HM:
Vernon Hargreaves(don't want to rank him because he's a freshman but the kid has IT)
Jeremy Hill(lots and lots of character issues)
Andrus Peat(only has 1 start under his belt but is no doubt going to be a star)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong forum. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: My top 30 prospects regardless of class Reply with quote

LuckIsGOAT wrote:
Not a projection of where they will go just purely who I think are the best prospects regardless when they beccome draft eligible

1.Marquise Lee, USC, WR
2.Kyle Van Noy, BYU, LB
3.Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina, DE
4.Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri, WR
5.Lamarcus Joyner, Florida St, S or Nickle
6.Austin Seferian Jenkins, Washington, TE
7.Todd Gurley, Georgia, RB
8.David Johnson Northern Iowa, RB
9.Brett Hundley, UCLA, QB
10.Jameis Winston, Florida St, QB
11.Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame, DE
12.Will Sutton, Arizona St, DT
13.Amari Cooper, Alabama, WR
14.Shayne Skov, Stanford, LB
15.CJ Mosley, Alabama, LB
16.Stefon Diggs, Maryland, WR
17.Duke Johnson, Miami, RB
18.David Fales, San Jose St, QB
19.Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville, QB

20.Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, QB/WR
21.Dominique Easley, Florida, DT
22.Anthony Barr, UCLA, LB
23.Taylor Lewan, Michigan, OT
24.Tim Jerrigan, Florida St, DT
25.Cyrus Kouandijo, Alabama, OT
26.Antonio Richardson, Tennessee, OT
27.James Gayle, Virginia Tech, DE
28.Ed Reynolds, Stanford, S
29.Morgan Breslin, USC, DE
30.Sammy Watkins, Clemson, WR

HM:
Vernon Hargreaves(don't want to rank him because he's a freshman but the kid has IT)
Jeremy Hill(lots and lots of character issues)
Andrus Peat(only has 1 start under his belt but is no doubt going to be a star)



Wow. Not sure if troll or serious here LuckIsGOAT. I know you like to ruffle feathers but I just have major, major problems with this.

1. Marqise Lee your top overall player? Please. He's not physically dominant enough to be the top overall player, IMO, and I personally don't think he will be anything incredible at the next level. Jeremy Maclin 2.0.

2. Kyle Van Noy at #2 ahead of many that are far more talented. He lacks the strength to shed blocks at the pro level right now and looks like a situational player to me.

4. DGB? He has shown you enough at the college level to be your #4 overall player? Okay.... but I don't think he deserves it on measurables alone.

5. LaMarcus Joyner 5th overall? This is where I started to think you are joking. He'll have a Honey Badger type role in the pros at best, playing in the nickel and on special teams. He is fast and a play-maker but not the 5th best prospect in this class, not even close.

6 ASJ is an elite TE prospect but you have listed him ahead of others that are for more deserving.

8. David Johnson, Northern Iowa. Who? Come on.

10. In no way has Winston shown enough yet to be the #10 overall prospect in the entire college ranks.

14. Shayne Skov is good but not an elite talent. Having him ahead of Mosley is a miss and your inner Stanford fan is shining through.

16. Stefon Diggs is going to be in the mold of Percy Harvin and Tavon Austin. I personally don't advocate drafting slot receivers that high but it could happen. That said, the guys you have him ranked above...

17. Duke Johnson is a nice talent but he doesn't show up against fast, physical defenses enough. He shreds teams when Miami's line dominates and he may be the fastest player on the field but struggles when asked to fight through an offensive line that isn't blowing open holes for him or when he tries to bounce it outside and a 6'3'', 240 pound linebacker has 4.55 speed to meet him there.

18 & 19. Possibly your most egregious miss, IMO. Fales ahead of Bridgewater. Why, just why? Fales is a game manager who will struggle to hit the tough throws or bring a spark to an NFL offense. Teddy is one of the best pro prospects I have personally seen play QB in college and may not be far off Andrew Luck as a prospect by season's end. I just can't take this seriously and would love to hear your justification for this one.

20. You have Johnny Manziel listed as a top 20 prospect. You also have him listed as a QB/WR. Must be trolling....
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: My top 30 prospects regardless of class Reply with quote

jshowers wrote:
LuckIsGOAT wrote:
Not a projection of where they will go just purely who I think are the best prospects regardless when they beccome draft eligible

1.Marquise Lee, USC, WR
2.Kyle Van Noy, BYU, LB
3.Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina, DE
4.Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri, WR
5.Lamarcus Joyner, Florida St, S or Nickel
6.Austin Seferian Jenkins, Washington, TE
7.Todd Gurley, Georgia, RB
8.David Johnson Northern Iowa, RB
9.Brett Hundley, UCLA, QB
10.Jameis Winston, Florida St, QB
11.Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame, DE
12.Will Sutton, Arizona St, DT
13.Amari Cooper, Alabama, WR
14.Shayne Skov, Stanford, LB
15.CJ Mosley, Alabama, LB
16.Stefon Diggs, Maryland, WR
17.Duke Johnson, Miami, RB
18.David Fales, San Jose St, QB
19.Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville, QB

20.Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M, QB/WR
21.Dominique Easley, Florida, DT
22.Anthony Barr, UCLA, LB
23.Taylor Lewan, Michigan, OT
24.Tim Jerrigan, Florida St, DT
25.Cyrus Kouandijo, Alabama, OT
26.Antonio Richardson, Tennessee, OT
27.James Gayle, Virginia Tech, DE
28.Ed Reynolds, Stanford, S
29.Morgan Breslin, USC, DE
30.Sammy Watkins, Clemson, WR

HM:
Vernon Hargreaves(don't want to rank him because he's a freshman but the kid has IT)
Jeremy Hill(lots and lots of character issues)
Andrus Peat(only has 1 start under his belt but is no doubt going to be a star)



Wow. Not sure if troll or serious here LuckIsGOAT. I know you like to ruffle feathers but I just have major, major problems with this.

1. Marqise Lee your top overall player? Please. He's not physically dominant enough to be the top overall player, IMO, and I personally don't think he will be anything incredible at the next level. Jeremy Maclin 2.0.

2. Kyle Van Noy at #2 ahead of many that are far more talented. He lacks the strength to shed blocks at the pro level right now and looks like a situational player to me.

4. DGB? He has shown you enough at the college level to be your #4 overall player? Okay.... but I don't think he deserves it on measurables alone.

5. LaMarcus Joyner 5th overall? This is where I started to think you are joking. He'll have a Honey Badger type role in the pros at best, playing in the nickel and on special teams. He is fast and a play-maker but not the 5th best prospect in this class, not even close.

6 ASJ is an elite TE prospect but you have listed him ahead of others that are for more deserving.

8. David Johnson, Northern Iowa. Who? Come on.

10. In no way has Winston shown enough yet to be the #10 overall prospect in the entire college ranks.

14. Shayne Skov is good but not an elite talent. Having him ahead of Mosley is a miss and your inner Stanford fan is shining through.

16. Stefon Diggs is going to be in the mold of Percy Harvin and Tavon Austin. I personally don't advocate drafting slot receivers that high but it could happen. That said, the guys you have him ranked above...

17. Duke Johnson is a nice talent but he doesn't show up against fast, physical defenses enough. He shreds teams when Miami's line dominates and he may be the fastest player on the field but struggles when asked to fight through an offensive line that isn't blowing open holes for him or when he tries to bounce it outside and a 6'3'', 240 pound linebacker has 4.55 speed to meet him there.

18 & 19. Possibly your most egregious miss, IMO. Fales ahead of Bridgewater. Why, just why? Fales is a game manager who will struggle to hit the tough throws or bring a spark to an NFL offense. Teddy is one of the best pro prospects I have personally seen play QB in college and may not be far off Andrew Luck as a prospect by season's end. I just can't take this seriously and would love to hear your justification for this one.

20. You have Johnny Manziel listed as a top 20 prospect. You also have him listed as a QB/WR. Must be trolling....


I don't really care about "deserving". Sometimes the upside is too enormous to ignore(DBG, Winston, etc)

Lee's a combination of Andre Johnson and Greg Jennings with absolutely no bust potential(his floor as a player is Jordy Nelson). No weakness.

KVN is a baller plain and simple he's not going to be a 3-4 OLB who plays at the LOS, he has the potential to do way more using his speed and range

Joyner and Mathieu are the future of the NFL. They are the Nickel/S that every team will want.

Do some research on David Johnson, he's a superstar.

Skov is the prototype 3-4 ILB in the mold of Tedy Bruschi

Duke Johnson is more powerful than you think, think Brian Westbrook

Not that high on Bridgewater. He has very good but not Cam level physical tools but doesn't look like a "natural passer" the way Luck, RG3, or Bradford looked. Fales to me looks like a natural.

JFF is a guy with no bust potential give him a shot at QB, he'll need the right coach who's innovative enough to build the system around him. If it doesn't work out I think he's the perfect QB turned WR prospect.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to see some reasoning behind some if these rankings considering how contrarian they are.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the worst list ever. Lee #1? Fales over Teddy? Laughing no
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFF has high bust potential if he is a top 10 pick.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttitansfan4life wrote:
Probably the worst list ever. Lee #1? Fales over Teddy? Laughing no


I concur lol, When the dust settles I see Sammy Watkins being the #1 WR, Van Noy over Clowney/Barr and Fales over Teddy Bridgewater is damn near criminal
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agree with marqise lee being top 3. beast mode x10

disagree with bridgewater/clowney not being #1-2
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I am a homer, but I would think Brad Roby would be somewhere in the top 30.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny Football in the top 30 and Fales ahead of Teddy B

Laughing

Johnny is talented, but just no.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: My top 30 prospects regardless of class Reply with quote

LuckIsGOAT wrote:

4.Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri, WR
8.David Johnson Northern Iowa, RB
9.Brett Hundley, UCLA, QB


DGB is all hype. Looks pretty average on the field apart from his height.

Hundley is garbage. One of the most overrated player on these boards.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fales ahead of Bridgewater? No.

Bridgewater is just superior in every facet of the game, breaking it down piece by piece is just a waste of time.
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