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You guys are slipping no one made a jags vs eagles thread. Get on it!!
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ethan raphael wrote:
Henne was "replaced" in Miami because he went on IR for the year. The same way that Gabbert was "replaced" in Jacksonville. Who knows what job offers he had? Or would have had if he hadn't signed with Jacksonville so quickly. Certainly not yourself. He isn't a franchise quarterback by any means, but to call him "garbage" is petty.

I'm sick of this place.
I missed this until now. You're completely neglecting the fact that he was actually replaced via the Dolphins letting their starting QB go so that maybe they could draft a replacement.

And no, calling him garbage isn't petty. Look up his stats when Cecil went out; that is, he no longer had someone bailing him out on all his poor reads. Complete garbage. The guy can't even play well against backups in a preseason game.

If you want to know what type of offers he had, all you have to do is look where he signed. Unless you think Henne is a moron, there's no reason he would have signed to be a backup on what appeared to be an awful offense if he had any offers to be a starter.
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iPwn wrote:
ethan raphael wrote:
Henne was "replaced" in Miami because he went on IR for the year. The same way that Gabbert was "replaced" in Jacksonville. Who knows what job offers he had? Or would have had if he hadn't signed with Jacksonville so quickly. Certainly not yourself. He isn't a franchise quarterback by any means, but to call him "garbage" is petty.

I'm sick of this place.
I missed this until now. You're completely neglecting the fact that he was actually replaced via the Dolphins letting their starting QB go so that maybe they could draft a replacement.

And no, calling him garbage isn't petty. Look up his stats when Cecil went out; that is, he no longer had someone bailing him out on all his poor reads. Complete garbage. The guy can't even play well against backups in a preseason game.

If you want to know what type of offers he had, all you have to do is look where he signed. Unless you think Henne is a moron, there's no reason he would have signed to be a backup on what appeared to be an awful offense if he had any offers to be a starter.


On Henne signing in Jacksonville, i'm personally inclined to think it was a priority for him, and one of the better offers in terms of potential to start games. He signed here as a 'backup' to one of the most underwhelming QBs in the league (Gabbert). And lo and behold, Henne got himself a chance to start quite a few games (granted, via injury), but Mularkey seemed plenty content to ride with Henne over Gabbert anyway.

Nobody was gonna hand Henne the keys to a starting job, but as far as 'backup' jobs go, Jacksonville certainly would've looked like one of the best opportunities to usurp a starting role in due time.
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Tugboat wrote:
iPwn wrote:
ethan raphael wrote:
Henne was "replaced" in Miami because he went on IR for the year. The same way that Gabbert was "replaced" in Jacksonville. Who knows what job offers he had? Or would have had if he hadn't signed with Jacksonville so quickly. Certainly not yourself. He isn't a franchise quarterback by any means, but to call him "garbage" is petty.

I'm sick of this place.
I missed this until now. You're completely neglecting the fact that he was actually replaced via the Dolphins letting their starting QB go so that maybe they could draft a replacement.

And no, calling him garbage isn't petty. Look up his stats when Cecil went out; that is, he no longer had someone bailing him out on all his poor reads. Complete garbage. The guy can't even play well against backups in a preseason game.

If you want to know what type of offers he had, all you have to do is look where he signed. Unless you think Henne is a moron, there's no reason he would have signed to be a backup on what appeared to be an awful offense if he had any offers to be a starter.


On Henne signing in Jacksonville, i'm personally inclined to think it was a priority for him, and one of the better offers in terms of potential to start games. He signed here as a 'backup' to one of the most underwhelming QBs in the league (Gabbert). And lo and behold, Henne got himself a chance to start quite a few games (granted, via injury), but Mularkey seemed plenty content to ride with Henne over Gabbert anyway.

Nobody was gonna hand Henne the keys to a starting job, but as far as 'backup' jobs go, Jacksonville certainly would've looked like one of the best opportunities to usurp a starting role in due time.
That it was, but that certainly shows how he's viewed across the league. A team who, at the time, had no starting QB option let him go, and the best thing he could get is a job offer from a terrible team to backup a terrible QB and hope he could get another shot. No team, even those with then no starting capable players even offered him a job.
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FWIW, Henne had a lot of interest from Seattle, and was was going to meet there next had he left Jacksonville.
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FWIW, Henne had a lot of interest from Seattle, and was was going to meet there next had he left Jacksonville.


Too bad they couldn't have got him...would rather roll with Gabbert/Stanzi.
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.Buzz wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
FWIW, Henne had a lot of interest from Seattle, and was was going to meet there next had he left Jacksonville.


Too bad they couldn't have got him...would rather roll with Gabbert/Stanzi.

Why? Henne is way better than Stanzi. Why would you rather roll with Gabbert and a worse QB than Henne? Laughing
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Jaguarfan wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
FWIW, Henne had a lot of interest from Seattle, and was was going to meet there next had he left Jacksonville.


Too bad they couldn't have got him...would rather roll with Gabbert/Stanzi.

Why? Henne is way better than Stanzi. Why would you rather roll with Gabbert and a worse QB than Henne? Laughing


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Jaguarfan wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
FWIW, Henne had a lot of interest from Seattle, and was was going to meet there next had he left Jacksonville.


Too bad they couldn't have got him...would rather roll with Gabbert/Stanzi.

Why? Henne is way better than Stanzi. Why would you rather roll with Gabbert and a worse QB than Henne? Laughing


Henne isn't leading us anywhere...and how do you know Henne is a better fit for us than Stanzi? Not like we've seen much of him. New system and change of scenery could have been what he needed.
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.Buzz wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
FWIW, Henne had a lot of interest from Seattle, and was was going to meet there next had he left Jacksonville.


Too bad they couldn't have got him...would rather roll with Gabbert/Stanzi.

Why? Henne is way better than Stanzi. Why would you rather roll with Gabbert and a worse QB than Henne? Laughing


Henne isn't leading us anywhere...and how do you know Henne is a better fit for us than Stanzi? Not like we've seen much of him. New system and change of scenery could have been what he needed.


The problem with Henne is that he's just sparatic enough to cost us a franchise quarterback in the draft, should Blaine not work out.

He'll lose us the majority of the games due to the whole being a terrible quarterback thing, but he'll also go out and not lose us a game or two as well.

A lot of times, there's a pretty significant talent gap between a quarterback taken at 2 or 3 versus a guy taken at 7.

If Blaine's the answer, that's wonderful. But if he's not, Henne could very well cost us a franchise guy while stinking up 80% of his starts.

The quarterback position is the one position you just can't patch. Either you have your guy, or you're boned.
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MoJo122-b-21 wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
FWIW, Henne had a lot of interest from Seattle, and was was going to meet there next had he left Jacksonville.


Too bad they couldn't have got him...would rather roll with Gabbert/Stanzi.

Why? Henne is way better than Stanzi. Why would you rather roll with Gabbert and a worse QB than Henne? Laughing


Henne isn't leading us anywhere...and how do you know Henne is a better fit for us than Stanzi? Not like we've seen much of him. New system and change of scenery could have been what he needed.


The problem with Henne is that he's just sparatic enough to cost us a franchise quarterback in the draft, should Blaine not work out.

He'll lose us the majority of the games due to the whole being a terrible quarterback thing, but he'll also go out and not lose us a game or two as well.

A lot of times, there's a pretty significant talent gap between a quarterback taken at 2 or 3 versus a guy taken at 7.

If Blaine's the answer, that's wonderful. But if he's not, Henne could very well cost us a franchise guy while stinking up 80% of his starts.

The quarterback position is the one position you just can't patch. Either you have your guy, or you're boned.


That's kind of where i'm getting at. Why stick with Henne? It's a lose/lose situation with him. He isn't good enough to be anymore than a backup, but like you mentioned, can play pretty solid at times and could cost us a chance at finally getting a franchise QB if Blaine Gabbert isn't the answer. I would rather have a guy like Stanzi with some potential and is young behind Gabbert than a proven backup who can be alright at times.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gabbert is the starter guys they are keeping henne around so it doesnt look like they are intentionally tanking the season. Now what could happen is when Blackmon returns, if the Jaguars season is going down the toilet by then they could cut henne and save face by saying stanzi looked better in practice. There would be no way to prove them wrong since its not open to the public.
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