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TiberiusRising


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
Pozzi wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
We tried out Jason Spitz.
Guess there were as unhappy with Gurode's performance as I was. He didnt get outmatched just didnt know any assignments it seemed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKyT2uiYkPo

5:33


5:39 Shocked


4:09 was the play I was talking about. Looks worse after having seen it again.

5:08 was bad too

5:19 also

6:06 he couldn't keep up with a screen play



Nix looked solid in here. Better than Bergstrom at LG. Berg wasn't bad though. I think the line looked horrific because of both Barron and Gurode. Replace Gurode with a solid RG and we're in much better shape.

Ya. Although Gurode had looked real good with the 2's so there may have been some chemistry issues but as it stands now Nix at RG and Bergstrom at LG seems like the way to go.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiberiusRising wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
ch8878 wrote:
Pozzi wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
We tried out Jason Spitz.
Guess there were as unhappy with Gurode's performance as I was. He didnt get outmatched just didnt know any assignments it seemed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKyT2uiYkPo

5:33


5:39 Shocked


4:09 was the play I was talking about. Looks worse after having seen it again.

5:08 was bad too

5:19 also

6:06 he couldn't keep up with a screen play



Nix looked solid in here. Better than Bergstrom at LG. Berg wasn't bad though. I think the line looked horrific because of both Barron and Gurode. Replace Gurode with a solid RG and we're in much better shape.

Ya. Although Gurode had looked real good with the 2's so there may have been some chemistry issues but as it stands now Nix at RG and Bergstrom at LG seems like the way to go.


Agreed. If Berg and Nix can play alright at LG and RG respectively then I think we're ok. We definitely will need to have Gordon help out Barron a lot and add some chips and what not in there too. Sparano should be able to figure something out.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure how reliable of a source it is but on the yahoo fantasy sports homepage, theres a link to rotoworld saying that gurode is the favorite to start at rg with nix at lg.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2689

it goes on to say that this is an all-time bad oline and that we're gonna go dumpster diving on players who get cut before the season.
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ryanTHEtrojan wrote:
not sure how reliable of a source it is but on the yahoo fantasy sports homepage, theres a link to rotoworld saying that gurode is the favorite to start at rg with nix at lg.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2689

it goes on to say that this is an all-time bad oline and that we're gonna go dumpster diving on players who get cut before the season.


This is the actual article...

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3. Who starts on the offensive line other than Jared Veldheer and Stefen Wisniewski

Scratch Veldheer, who could miss nearly half the regular season (or more) after having surgery to repair a torn left triceps. For now, itís Alex Barron at left tackle, Lucas Nix at left guard, Wisniewski at center, Andre Gurode at right guard and Khalif Barnes at right tackle.

Itís a fluid situation, however. The Saints sacked Flynn five times in the first half in the second preseason game, and the Raiders will be watching the waiver wire closely. There may be a starter or two up front who isnít yet on the roster.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2013/08/22/revisiting-five-camp-questions/
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So week one


Watson
Nix
Wiz
McClain
Barnes

Bench
Gurode C
Brisel G
Barron T

Valdheer out
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So week one


Watson
Nix
Wiz
McClain
Barnes

Bench
Gurode C
Brisel G
Barron T

Valdheer out


McClain won't start.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
EricAllen21 wrote:
So week one


Watson
Nix
Wiz
McClain
Barnes

Bench
Gurode C
Brisel G
Barron T

Valdheer out


McClain won't start.


Yes he will you Dennis Allen apologist.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
EricAllen21 wrote:
So week one


Watson
Nix
Wiz
McClain
Barnes

Bench
Gurode C
Brisel G
Barron T

Valdheer out


McClain won't start.


Yes he will you Dennis Allen apologist.


Naaaah.

Barnes will probably kick inside and Pashos looks to be the guy for RT.
I would think

Watson
Nix
Wisniewski
Barnes
Pashos

Or reverse the guards.. But I doubt after signing Pashos McClain will start.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holyghost wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
EricAllen21 wrote:
So week one


Watson
Nix
Wiz
McClain
Barnes

Bench
Gurode C
Brisel G
Barron T

Valdheer out


McClain won't start.


Yes he will you Dennis Allen apologist.


Naaaah.

Barnes will probably kick inside and Pashos looks to be the guy for RT.
I would think

Watson
Nix
Wisniewski
Barnes
Pashos

Or reverse the guards.. But I doubt after signing Pashos McClain will start.
Yeah in this situation I would put the veteran Barnes next to Watson, and Nix next to Pashos
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Starting O-line will be Watson, Nix, Wiz, Brisiel, Barnes.
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[quote="Stix101"]
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Starting O-line will be Watson, Nix, Wiz, Brisiel, Barnes.
Until Brisiel stinks it up.
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Starting O-line will be Watson, Nix, Wiz, Brisiel, Barnes.


If Mike B starts all season I will flip a ship (<---euphemism).
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raidr4life wrote:
holyghost wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
EricAllen21 wrote:
So week one


Watson
Nix
Wiz
McClain
Barnes

Bench
Gurode C
Brisel G
Barron T

Valdheer out


McClain won't start.


Yes he will you Dennis Allen apologist.


Naaaah.

Barnes will probably kick inside and Pashos looks to be the guy for RT.
I would think

Watson
Nix
Wisniewski
Barnes
Pashos

Or reverse the guards.. But I doubt after signing Pashos McClain will start.
Yeah in this situation I would put the veteran Barnes next to Watson, and Nix next to Pashos


Why do people keep putting Barnes at guard? He has only played there once and that was in 2010.
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Rumor has it we may sign Jared Gaither. I like it if he really wants to play and not be a lazy @ss.
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Dessie wrote:
Why do people keep putting Barnes at guard? He has only played there once and that was in 2010.


Because he isn't a very good RT and if we can upgrade RT then we don't need him to play there. We do need help at G though, so if he can chip in there we'll take it.
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