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Mike Nolan is he overrated ? or he doesn't have the pieces ?
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scar988


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was only 7 or 8 carries different though. the % of time that the nickel saw a run was surprisingly higher than when base packages saw a run though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar988 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
scar988 wrote:
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Swift... Let's look at some situational stats:

Nickel defense versus the run last year: 5.7 YPA
Base defense versus the run last year: 4.2 YPA

https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/statuses/301342154285010944

The issue wasn't going from Lofton to Dent. The issue was barely playing base packages because Nickel was the base. Run defense will always suffer when that's the case.

Now carry on with your hate. Just wanted to clear up the misconception that Dent was a poor run defender.


Those numbers don't mean anything without the # of attempts . Yes we played majority base nickel 4-2-5 but if YPA was 5.7 with only 100 attempts was in nickel and we still allowed 4.2 YPC in 300 attempts in 4-3 then our run defense was still a issue .


The # of attempts were damn near equal... so that's why I didn't include it.



link by any chance ..


Nolan is going to have to do something to stop being exploited in 4-2-5

or is TD going to have to find a monster NT


The run defense was pretty bad last year and if we want to be considered a championship team our defense is going to have to be better then it has in past playoff performances

personal research and charting. So there is no link.


I'll have to do my own research , sorry scar can't trust your word about it or some twitter post
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least we can all agree he's better than Van Gorder. BVG isn't even worthy of being a college DC, let alone in the NFL. Nolan is making the most of what he can. I really can't say talent-wise we are a top 10 defense just yet, hopefully some players keep developing and get better. We still need some starters on the DL, and we need a better third LB whether that be Dent or someone else. Also guys like Nicholas and Biermann are solid at best. I'm hoping next year we get a true NT for our multiple front, specifically Daniel McCullers. We rarely go for JUCO guys, but big Dan is a real TD type of guy.
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I'll have to do my own research , sorry scar can't trust your word about it or some twitter post


of course you don't. It's not like I didn't chart the games or anything for my job or anything. Rolling Eyes
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At least we can all agree he's better than Van Gorder. BVG isn't even worthy of being a college DC, let alone in the NFL. Nolan is making the most of what he can. I really can't say talent-wise we are a top 10 defense just yet, hopefully some players keep developing and get better. We still need some starters on the DL, and we need a better third LB whether that be Dent or someone else. Also guys like Nicholas and Biermann are solid at best. I'm hoping next year we get a true NT for our multiple front, specifically Daniel McCullers. We rarely go for JUCO guys, but big Dan is a real TD type of guy.
TD doesn't seem to care about JUCO type guys...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll have to do my own research , sorry scar can't trust your word about it or some twitter post


of course you don't. It's not like I didn't chart the games or anything for my job or anything. Rolling Eyes


if you did the charts you can show me the data or the spreadsheets scar Wink
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scar988 wrote:
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At least we can all agree he's better than Van Gorder. BVG isn't even worthy of being a college DC, let alone in the NFL. Nolan is making the most of what he can. I really can't say talent-wise we are a top 10 defense just yet, hopefully some players keep developing and get better. We still need some starters on the DL, and we need a better third LB whether that be Dent or someone else. Also guys like Nicholas and Biermann are solid at best. I'm hoping next year we get a true NT for our multiple front, specifically Daniel McCullers. We rarely go for JUCO guys, but big Dan is a real TD type of guy.
TD doesn't seem to care about JUCO type guys...

Doesn't care as in doesn't draft, or doesn't care as in he doesn't care if they went to a JUCO and will draft them?
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scar988 wrote:
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I'll have to do my own research , sorry scar can't trust your word about it or some twitter post


of course you don't. It's not like I didn't chart the games or anything for my job or anything. Rolling Eyes


if you did the charts you can show me the data or the spreadsheets scar Wink
I will, once I get home.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar988 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
scar988 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:

I'll have to do my own research , sorry scar can't trust your word about it or some twitter post


of course you don't. It's not like I didn't chart the games or anything for my job or anything. Rolling Eyes


if you did the charts you can show me the data or the spreadsheets scar Wink
I will, once I get home.


any data yet ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swift924 wrote:
scar988 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
scar988 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:

I'll have to do my own research , sorry scar can't trust your word about it or some twitter post


of course you don't. It's not like I didn't chart the games or anything for my job or anything. Rolling Eyes


if you did the charts you can show me the data or the spreadsheets scar Wink
I will, once I get home.


any data yet ?
oh, sorry. "getting swift data" isn't high on my priorities list.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

didnt have to be a top priority . You said once you get home and been days and NEVER delivered the data . That is all
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didnt have to be a top priority . You said once you get home and been days and NEVER delivered the data . That is all
it slipped my mind. As things regarding you often do.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon Scar, Swift's been sitting at home, staring at his computer screen, refreshing the page every 5-6 minutes waiting on you to upload to the data!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar988 wrote:
Swift924 wrote:
didnt have to be a top priority . You said once you get home and been days and NEVER delivered the data . That is all
it slipped my mind. As things regarding you often do.



thats good just wanted to see if I can refresh if you truly have it. If you dont that is fine as well .
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