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mcmurtry86


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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richter wrote:
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I don't doubt that Collins will be a good player.

The big question is: Where does he play?

Do the Pats move back to a 3-4? Even then, with Ninko, Spikes, Hightower, Mayo, and Jones (OLB in a 34)... our Linebacker corps is already packed.


Tough to move back to a 3-4 with almost no 3-4 DL on the roster. No backup NT, Kelly has played 5-technique but is a poor fit as a 2-gap guy and Armstead - while physically meeting the prototype - hasn't really done it before.

The backups? Just about nobody.

I think it's clear the Pats are shifting towards a "base" which is really their sub 4-2-5 or 3-3-5. They've been using it so much as it is that it's not surprising that they're moving more and more in that direction in terms of their personnel.

The shift has already happened, as far as I'm concerned. I think they're going to go with a five DB look a lot this season, with the fifth DB being a hybrid playing the star position, most likely the two Wilsons.


The shift has been going on for a few years but this year, the personnel up front seems to be much more focused on lighter, more versatile players.

2 years ago, they were playing 50% sub but still carried guys like Love, Ellis, Deaderick etc as heavily used players. They still might add another big body but right not the roster composition is quite different than what we're used to seeing from Belichick.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
Richter wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
FakingInjuries wrote:
I don't doubt that Collins will be a good player.

The big question is: Where does he play?

Do the Pats move back to a 3-4? Even then, with Ninko, Spikes, Hightower, Mayo, and Jones (OLB in a 34)... our Linebacker corps is already packed.


Tough to move back to a 3-4 with almost no 3-4 DL on the roster. No backup NT, Kelly has played 5-technique but is a poor fit as a 2-gap guy and Armstead - while physically meeting the prototype - hasn't really done it before.

The backups? Just about nobody.

I think it's clear the Pats are shifting towards a "base" which is really their sub 4-2-5 or 3-3-5. They've been using it so much as it is that it's not surprising that they're moving more and more in that direction in terms of their personnel.

The shift has already happened, as far as I'm concerned. I think they're going to go with a five DB look a lot this season, with the fifth DB being a hybrid playing the star position, most likely the two Wilsons.


The shift has been going on for a few years but this year, the personnel up front seems to be much more focused on lighter, more versatile players.

2 years ago, they were playing 50% sub but still carried guys like Love, Ellis, Deaderick etc as heavily used players. They still might add another big body but right not the roster composition is quite different than what we're used to seeing from Belichick.

Well, stopping the run doesn't matter as much as it used to, especially if you can't get off the field. Jones is an oversized player for his position, so they'll still have some beef up front between him, Wilfork and Kelly, and Armstead and Forston can probably play some left end in a pinch. I still think they have the ability to go big up front, they'd just rather be more versatile and faster up front to contend with the number of passing plays they'll defend.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearly forgot this:




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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Patriots have reached a deal with fourth-round wide receiver Josh Boyce worth $2.637 million, including a $477,000 bonus


https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/337976426047365121
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#Patriots have signed DE/OLB Michael Buchanan, per the league transaction wire.


http://twitter.com/cpriceNFL/statuses/339485207197540352

Everyone but Dobson.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A closer look at the contracts signed by Patriots rookies Josh Boyce (fourth round) and Michael Buchanan (seventh round):

JOSH BOYCE
Terms: 4 years, $2.637 million
Signing bonus: $477,000
Base salaries:
2013: $405,000 (split salary if lands on reserve list at any point)
2014: $495,000 (split salary if lands on reserve list in preseason)
2015: $585,000
2016: $675,000
Salary cap charges:
2013: $524,250
2014: $614,250
2015: $704,250
2016: $794,250

EXTRA POINT: If Boyce is on the 53-man roster in 2014 for one game, the split is eliminated. A preseason split protects a team from a training camp injury. The typical fourth-round contract has a full split in the first year and then a preseason split in the second year.

MICHAEL BUCHANAN
Terms: 4 years, $2.213 million
Signing bonus: $53,612
Base salaries:
2013: $405,000 (split salary if lands on reserve list at any point)
2014: $495,000 (split salary if lands on reserve list at any point)
2015: $585,000
2016: $675,000
Salary cap charges:
2013: $418,403
2014: $508,503
2015: $598,403
2016: $688,403

EXTRA POINT: This is a standard deal for a seventh-round pick. As is reflected with most of these rookies deals, the moderate salary cap charge makes them excellent values for teams economically if the rookies make the club and perform well.


http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4743845/closer-look-at-boyce-buchanan-deals
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The Patriots have signed WR Aaron Dobson.


http://twitter.com/cpriceNFL/statuses/347819242470645760
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Spikes wrote:
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The Patriots have signed WR Aaron Dobson.


http://twitter.com/cpriceNFL/statuses/347819242470645760

Well, that's some coincidental timing.
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