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J-Will Still Not Recovered from Last Season's PCL Injury

 
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: J-Will Still Not Recovered from Last Season's PCL Injury Reply with quote

wonderful... anybody else not think this should be lingering for 5+ months?

http://www.giants101.com/2013/05/23/new-york-giants-jacquian-williams-still-recovering-from-pcl-injury/
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's with all the bad news lately?

Pcl injuries are no joke though, and some can be career ending injuries. Hopefully for his and our sake hill be close to 100% by August
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as fragile as Keith Rivers.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically we could realistically be looking at the opening first-team OTA set of Mark Herzalich, Kieth Rivers, and Spencer Paysinger as actual starters? Ugh. Get well JWill, your our best hope for a playmaker at LB. Looks like a lot of 2 LB packages in games.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So basically we could realistically be looking at the opening first-team OTA set of Mark Herzalich, Kieth Rivers, and Spencer Paysinger as actual starters? Ugh. Get well JWill, your our best hope for a playmaker at LB. Looks like a lot of 2 LB packages in games.


I thought it would be Curry-Conner-Rivers anyways.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a shame. I loved how he played his rookie season. His game against the Eagles was huge. And against Green Bay, there a play where he matched up in the slot with Donald Driver. He could be a very good cover linebacker if only he could get healthy. I don't think he's an every down player though. The base defense would probably have been Rivers / Connor / Curry regardless of the William's health.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YET WE DRAFTED NO LINEBACKERS UGHHH Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad I have high hopes for him and i understand were not big in LBs but rivers is guaranteed to get hurt and curry is in the same boat.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be setting myself up for disappointment, but I'm intrigued by Curry. There are Raiders fans that thought he played well for them.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I may be setting myself up for disappointment, but I'm intrigued by Curry. There are Raiders fans that thought he played well for them.


I'm hesitant of Curry, Im sure with the right coaching he could play well.

But I'm still worried he was a wasted investment.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking through my roster sheets. Yes, I have a excel spreadsheet of each team's 90-man rosters. Its my OCD. Anyway, looking at rosters and considering cheap contracts for good players who've either fallen out of favor with a team or out due to scheme change, the only viable LBs I could find were Koa Misi and Brandon Spikes. Both are definite trade options.

I know the GMEN don't trade, but its fun to speculate and JR did trade for Rivers. I would offer the Hoody or Ireland, Marvin Austin straight up. The Pats need DT bodies now, just drafted a couple LBs, don't care for Spikes due to lack of versatility, plus Belicheck loves reclamation projects.

There could be a couple of players from Green Bay or Indianapolis (Pat Angerer comes to mind) that could be squeezed out the roster and picked up for a 7th round pick as training camp is near an end.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gmen4ev wrote:
Gmen wrote:
I may be setting myself up for disappointment, but I'm intrigued by Curry. There are Raiders fans that thought he played well for them.


I'm hesitant of Curry, Im sure with the right coaching he could play well.

But I'm still worried he was a wasted investment.


i still don't get this. what did we "invest" in Curry? A vet minimum contract? He's counting $620k against the cap! Honestly... who cares? Who would you have rather saved a spot for that costs less against the cap than the cash they will earn?
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dkebones wrote:
Gmen4ev wrote:
Gmen wrote:
I may be setting myself up for disappointment, but I'm intrigued by Curry. There are Raiders fans that thought he played well for them.


I'm hesitant of Curry, Im sure with the right coaching he could play well.

But I'm still worried he was a wasted investment.


i still don't get this. what did we "invest" in Curry? A vet minimum contract? He's counting $620k against the cap! Honestly... who cares? Who would you have rather saved a spot for that costs less against the cap than the cash they will earn?


Investment may have been the wrong word, I'm just worried he's going to do worse than the other F/A's we could have signed. We'll just have to see though.
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Gmen4ev wrote:
dkebones wrote:
Gmen4ev wrote:
Gmen wrote:
I may be setting myself up for disappointment, but I'm intrigued by Curry. There are Raiders fans that thought he played well for them.


I'm hesitant of Curry, Im sure with the right coaching he could play well.

But I'm still worried he was a wasted investment.


i still don't get this. what did we "invest" in Curry? A vet minimum contract? He's counting $620k against the cap! Honestly... who cares? Who would you have rather saved a spot for that costs less against the cap than the cash they will earn?


Investment may have been the wrong word, I'm just worried he's going to do worse than the other F/A's we could have signed. We'll just have to see though.


again, what does this mean? who are you referencing that we should have gone after? Dansby? we didn't/don't have room to pay a linebacker $2M+. I agree that would have been great. Hell, I would have loved to see Dansby, Curry and Rivers on the field together (and healthy...I know, I know. pipedreams Laughing ).

but seriously, if you're going to throw out statements like "i would have liked to have seen someone else signed," they need to be paired with some examples of who we would have had a legitimate business opportunity to pursue.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Signing a player for the vet minimum is no real risk because those contracts are non-guaranteed. The Giants can sign a better LB closer to training camp when players get desperate and the price comes down. Rivers, Connor, and Curry are all on vet minimum deals and there is no loss cutting them. Using the highest 53 salaries, the low end comes around $555k so $620k isn't hurting the cap. If Curry plays well, great, if he doesn't, they can just cut him without penalty.
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