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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We are also being linked to Bradon LLoyd who honestly is the best reciever of the bunch. As probably the 4th option in the passing game (behind both TE's and Welker) He still put up decent numbers. I also think he was in Belichecks doghouse a bit because apparently he "acts weird" which isn't really a real character concern as far as i know lol.
He definitely is the best of the bunch
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rampantjet wrote:
We are also being linked to Bradon LLoyd who honestly is the best reciever of the bunch. As probably the 4th option in the passing game (behind both TE's and Welker) He still put up decent numbers. I also think he was in Belichecks doghouse a bit because apparently he "acts weird" which isn't really a real character concern as far as i know lol.
Where are you getting this from?
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rampantjet wrote:
We are also being linked to Bradon LLoyd who honestly is the best reciever of the bunch. As probably the 4th option in the passing game (behind both TE's and Welker) He still put up decent numbers. I also think he was in Belichecks doghouse a bit because apparently he "acts weird" which isn't really a real character concern as far as i know lol.
Where are you getting this from?



http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/2013/02/26/patriots-offseason-primer-after-ravens-loss-expect-frenzy/k1aUBXZ4lP5Aki8lxtKxcO/story-1.html

This report said Lloyd displayed erratic behavior on practice field and in locker room, but no examples are given.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Conquest8089 wrote:
I see Tight End as the most glaring hole for Mornhinweg's system. Cumberland is more suitable for a backup role. He lacks the real athleticism to threaten the seam or create separation. As for Konrad Reuland, he's not a playmaker. I like the UDFAs Mike Shannahan in particular, but TE is something that must be addressed.

I want YOUNG players in all moves. Win Now teams have the luxury of considering a Charles Woodson type addition, but let's look at immediate need & longterm projection.

I'd bring former Giants TE Travis Beckum in for a Try Out. 26 Years Old never stayed healthy with the Giants. If he's healthy, sign him to a non-guaranteed contract to add competition to the TE position battle.

I'd contact Howie Roseman (Eagles GM) about Clay Harbor. Would consider offering a 7th Round Pick, but would be a prelim discussion. Basically looking for information about Chip's plan. Reason being-

Eagles have:
James Casey
Brent Celek
Zach Ertz

Does Chip plan on keeping 4 Tight End types? The reason I'd give up a 7th is I'd like to get him into camp prior to final cuts at the end of August. Plus doubt he'd make it to the AFC in the Waiver Process. He's a UFA following the season, but if he proves it- resign.

This may Sound Crazy. But I'd offer the Ravens Jeremy Kerley straight up for Ed Dickson. Kerley is a UFA in 2015, and Dickson next offseason. Both are young. I can find a slot WR, but TE is such a huge need. Might even throw in a Pick b/c I think he's untapped potential.

Would keep my eye on Packers D.J. Williams in Pre-Season.

Also would scout Broncos Virgil Green & Julius Thomas should one not make the final 53.


Hayden Smith. This is who they are going to give a shot. Don't see us making a move for a guy right now and I definitely don't see us trading Kerley for a TE. Jets did not even mess with trying to re-sign Keller so I think they feel good about Smith as a weapon in the passing game as well as Cumberland as a "hold the fort" type of guy.


this is false they did match the Miami offer he just choose to go to a team he felt he would have the best year personally and the best chance to win remember he only got a 1 year prove it deal

as far as the original post we are not trading Kerley or even for that matter any draft picks for any TE they might sign another guy into camp like a Beckum or whoever or after final cuts at end of preseason sign a good TE that wasnt good enough for other teams but by that time Hayden Smith might have already realy impressed us or even Cumberland for that matter anything can happen

1 more note: the only potential trade i see is if we sign Cribbs then Mcknight is clearly on the trade block


Where did you hear of a Jets offer to Keller or them matching the Dolphins deal?

Everything I read was related to Keller desiring to stay but having not much contact or an offer from the Jets. Here is what I have read to lead me to believe the Jets where not interested in a deal with him ...

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/keller_wants_to_stay_jet_vZwh7wAj5kkL77pSzJPNjK?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Jets

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/20859/jets-to-meet-with-kellers-agent-in-indy?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Do you have info showing they matched the offer of the Dolphins or they even made an offer? Just curious since I did not see anything anywhere to suggested this....

Also, I would not call a $4.25 MM deal a "show me" deal, when the franchise tender is $5.9MM for TE.... yes he got a one year deal but he got good money. Not like he signed for $2 MM or something ...
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JetsFan15 wrote:
imaiden6669 wrote:
JetsFan15 wrote:
Conquest8089 wrote:
I see Tight End as the most glaring hole for Mornhinweg's system. Cumberland is more suitable for a backup role. He lacks the real athleticism to threaten the seam or create separation. As for Konrad Reuland, he's not a playmaker. I like the UDFAs Mike Shannahan in particular, but TE is something that must be addressed.

I want YOUNG players in all moves. Win Now teams have the luxury of considering a Charles Woodson type addition, but let's look at immediate need & longterm projection.

I'd bring former Giants TE Travis Beckum in for a Try Out. 26 Years Old never stayed healthy with the Giants. If he's healthy, sign him to a non-guaranteed contract to add competition to the TE position battle.

I'd contact Howie Roseman (Eagles GM) about Clay Harbor. Would consider offering a 7th Round Pick, but would be a prelim discussion. Basically looking for information about Chip's plan. Reason being-

Eagles have:
James Casey
Brent Celek
Zach Ertz

Does Chip plan on keeping 4 Tight End types? The reason I'd give up a 7th is I'd like to get him into camp prior to final cuts at the end of August. Plus doubt he'd make it to the AFC in the Waiver Process. He's a UFA following the season, but if he proves it- resign.

This may Sound Crazy. But I'd offer the Ravens Jeremy Kerley straight up for Ed Dickson. Kerley is a UFA in 2015, and Dickson next offseason. Both are young. I can find a slot WR, but TE is such a huge need. Might even throw in a Pick b/c I think he's untapped potential.

Would keep my eye on Packers D.J. Williams in Pre-Season.

Also would scout Broncos Virgil Green & Julius Thomas should one not make the final 53.


Hayden Smith. This is who they are going to give a shot. Don't see us making a move for a guy right now and I definitely don't see us trading Kerley for a TE. Jets did not even mess with trying to re-sign Keller so I think they feel good about Smith as a weapon in the passing game as well as Cumberland as a "hold the fort" type of guy.


this is false they did match the Miami offer he just choose to go to a team he felt he would have the best year personally and the best chance to win remember he only got a 1 year prove it deal

as far as the original post we are not trading Kerley or even for that matter any draft picks for any TE they might sign another guy into camp like a Beckum or whoever or after final cuts at end of preseason sign a good TE that wasnt good enough for other teams but by that time Hayden Smith might have already realy impressed us or even Cumberland for that matter anything can happen

1 more note: the only potential trade i see is if we sign Cribbs then Mcknight is clearly on the trade block


Where did you hear of a Jets offer to Keller or them matching the Dolphins deal?

Everything I read was related to Keller desiring to stay but having not much contact or an offer from the Jets. Here is what I have read to lead me to believe the Jets where not interested in a deal with him ...

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/keller_wants_to_stay_jet_vZwh7wAj5kkL77pSzJPNjK?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Jets

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/20859/jets-to-meet-with-kellers-agent-in-indy?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Do you have info showing they matched the offer of the Dolphins or they even made an offer? Just curious since I did not see anything anywhere to suggested this....

Also, I would not call a $4.25 MM deal a "show me" deal, when the franchise tender is $5.9MM for TE.... yes he got a one year deal but he got good money. Not like he signed for $2 MM or something ...


i remember hearing about it on one of the Jets shows on SNY that they were never going to give him a multi year contract but he was willing to sign a 1 year deal with Miami the Jets told his agents they would match but it was too late he as going to choose Miami anyway

and the prove it part of the deal is the fact its only a 1-year deal every player wants long term security so hes hoping to stay healthy prove hes a top tier #1 TE then get his long term deal next year

neither of these things change wat i said in the first part of my response
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We just claimed Marcus Davis off of waivers
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We just claimed Marcus Davis off of waivers


The WR from VA Tech?
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We just claimed Marcus Davis off of waivers

That's more of a UDFA thing. He is from the 2013 draft class.
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Any news on Braylon??? I still think we need WR help
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Any news on Braylon??? I still think we need WR help


Braylon would be good to help mentor Davis and Hill. If Davis get his head together he could actually be a nice player. Hill just can't catch.
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jpt331 wrote:
Any news on Braylon??? I still think we need WR help


Braylon would be good to help mentor Davis and Hill. If Davis get his head together he could actually be a nice player. Hill just can't catch.

It's not like Braylon has sure hands himself.
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green24 wrote:
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jpt331 wrote:
Any news on Braylon??? I still think we need WR help


Braylon would be good to help mentor Davis and Hill. If Davis get his head together he could actually be a nice player. Hill just can't catch.

It's not like Braylon has sure hands himself.


Hills hands might as well have been bricks, thats how horrible he was last year. Ill take Braylons hands any day.
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