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 Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Pats sign former Chargers starting OG Green; Cut DE Dead |
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That's not going to be pretty. I've never seen a guy look less motivated when pulling than Green; most pulling guards look like a bull in a china shop looking for someone to knock over, Green was content to just meet his assignment and just sort of be there. Fair, but far from great pass-blocking if he's got a competent tackle playing next to him, but he's a guy who never really learned how to use his long arms to his advantage (seriously, Hal Hunter was a horrible OL coach when it came to actually honing technique) and I fear for him having to face bigger, stronger interior DL players.
Good luck, Cowboys fans.
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Pats sign former Chargers starting OG Green; Cut DE Dead |
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| The LBC wrote: |
That's not going to be pretty. I've never seen a guy look less motivated when pulling than Green; most pulling guards look like a bull in a china shop looking for someone to knock over, Green was content to just meet his assignment and just sort of be there. Fair, but far from great pass-blocking if he's got a competent tackle playing next to him, but he's a guy who never really learned how to use his long arms to his advantage (seriously, Hal Hunter was a horrible OL coach when it came to actually honing technique) and I fear for him having to face bigger, stronger interior DL players.
Good luck, Cowboys fans. |
Dan Connolly is RG as of now and should be starting again, I don't think he's done anything to lose the job, but someone to push him a little more can't hurt.
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I really don't know what to think of Green. He played next to the slop that is Clary so you have to take that Into account. As competition for a guard spot I think it's a good signing. He'll provide a good option as depth and he is probably average as a starter. I wonder what the numbers are.
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| Boltstrikes wrote: | | I really don't know what to think of Green. He played next to the slop that is Clary so you have to take that Into account. As competition for a guard spot I think it's a good signing. He'll provide a good option as depth and he is probably average as a starter. I wonder what the numbers are. |
He never played next to Clary, that was Vasquez. Green was only good with Gaither and quite poor without him.
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| He's a guy. Not a bad pick up for depth though. I doubt he starts unless one of the Pats' starting guards gets injured for an extended amount of time. |
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There must be something we don't know about Deaderick. He's 25 and a pretty solid player from what I've seen of him.
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| Gore Whore 21 wrote: | | There must be something we don't know about Deaderick. He's 25 and a pretty solid player from what I've seen of him. |
He's a good backup 5-technique in a base 3-4. He's an OK stopgap starter for a few games.
In a 4-3 he is usesless. In any sub package he is useless (other than goal line).
He also is reportedly a little lazy (was suspended by the team for missing a meeting).
He doesn't fit what the Pats do these days on D and I'm guessing his off-season workout habits aren't the best. He'll latch on somewhere. He's probably going to bounce around the league as a backup/journeyman type. |
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| mcmurtry86 wrote: | | Gore Whore 21 wrote: | | There must be something we don't know about Deaderick. He's 25 and a pretty solid player from what I've seen of him. |
He's a good backup 5-technique in a base 3-4. He's an OK stopgap starter for a few games.
In a 4-3 he is usesless. In any sub package he is useless (other than goal line).
He also is reportedly a little lazy (was suspended by the team for missing a meeting).
He doesn't fit what the Pats do these days on D and I'm guessing his off-season workout habits aren't the best. He'll latch on somewhere. He's probably going to bounce around the league as a backup/journeyman type. |
Yeah he'll be a decent depth pick-up for any team newly transitioning to a 34. Colts wouldn't be a bad spot.
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| JammerHammer21 wrote: | | Boltstrikes wrote: | | I really don't know what to think of Green. He played next to the slop that is Clary so you have to take that Into account. As competition for a guard spot I think it's a good signing. He'll provide a good option as depth and he is probably average as a starter. I wonder what the numbers are. |
He never played next to Clary, that was Vasquez. Green was only good with Gaither and quite poor without him. |
You're right. I was mixing up the two. That being said Green is trash as a starter but solid depth. He actually replaced Dielman when Dielman retired and was terrible outside of a few games. He doesn't pull well at all. Again, he was next to utter incompetence so there is a chance he could be decent but I wouldn't sell out on him being more then mediocre.
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Doesnt sound like someone you really want on your team...but we have him
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