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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Even though I wanted Warford in the worst way, I really like what they've done with the OL this year.


Practically nothing?


Nice beginning!

I agree

While I get the strategy of taking chances on a lot of long shots and hoping one of them hits, another strategy -- taking a favorite (e.g., Orb in the Kentucky Derby) -- usually works better over the long run, so to speak!


They got what they could with no picks in which to do it....

So if one of them is a solid starter and one is a decent backup what then? WHAT A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

They picked up solid players from a trash heap.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pnies20 wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bulldog wrote:
pnies20 wrote:
Even though I wanted Warford in the worst way, I really like what they've done with the OL this year.


Practically nothing?


Nice beginning!

I agree

While I get the strategy of taking chances on a lot of long shots and hoping one of them hits, another strategy -- taking a favorite (e.g., Orb in the Kentucky Derby) -- usually works better over the long run, so to speak!


They got what they could with no picks in which to do it....

So if one of them is a solid starter and one is a decent backup what then? WHAT A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

They picked up solid players from a trash heap.


They did do what they could with what they had, for sure.

But they are not solid players. They are from a trash heap though. They are what the browns thought were best of what was left over that other teams didn't want earlier (including the browns)

They could become solid players. Or in this case, start staying healthy. But its not a sure thing that any of that happens. The fact is they signed a 30 year old backup that has a laundry list of injuries and a few unproven rookies.

In my book, thats practically nothing.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
pnies20 wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bulldog wrote:
pnies20 wrote:
Even though I wanted Warford in the worst way, I really like what they've done with the OL this year.


Practically nothing?


Nice beginning!

I agree

While I get the strategy of taking chances on a lot of long shots and hoping one of them hits, another strategy -- taking a favorite (e.g., Orb in the Kentucky Derby) -- usually works better over the long run, so to speak!


They got what they could with no picks in which to do it....

So if one of them is a solid starter and one is a decent backup what then? WHAT A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

They picked up solid players from a trash heap.


They did do what they could with what they had, for sure.

But they are not solid players. They are from a trash heap though. They are what the browns thought were best of what was left over that other teams didn't want earlier (including the browns)

They could become solid players. Or in this case, start staying healthy. But its not a sure thing that any of that happens. The fact is they signed a 30 year old backup that has a laundry list of injuries and a few unproven rookies.

In my book, thats practically nothing.


I'm fairly confident we've got a couple players who could end up starting at G in Cave and Gilkey. I'm also fairly certain butler, who is healthy, can be a decent swing tackle.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
pnies20 wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bulldog wrote:
pnies20 wrote:
Even though I wanted Warford in the worst way, I really like what they've done with the OL this year.


Practically nothing?


Nice beginning!

I agree

While I get the strategy of taking chances on a lot of long shots and hoping one of them hits, another strategy -- taking a favorite (e.g., Orb in the Kentucky Derby) -- usually works better over the long run, so to speak!


They got what they could with no picks in which to do it....

So if one of them is a solid starter and one is a decent backup what then? WHAT A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

They picked up solid players from a trash heap.


They did do what they could with what they had, for sure.

But they are not solid players. They are from a trash heap though. They are what the browns thought were best of what was left over that other teams didn't want earlier (including the browns)

They could become solid players. Or in this case, start staying healthy. But its not a sure thing that any of that happens. The fact is they signed a 30 year old backup that has a laundry list of injuries and a few unproven rookies.

In my book, thats practically nothing.


I see pnies' point though. With very limited opportunities to try to improve what is considered by many to be a current strength of the team (the offensive line)-- they still took multiple swings of the bat to try to improve it.

Depth really is the big issue with the line. And a 'gem', in this case, would be a player that becomes good depth.

From that perspective, these are 'solid players'--with the caveat that they were attained for practically nothing ('practically nothing' was risked). Yet, there is a chance that some of them will become 'quality depth’, while others have a chance to even develop into future starters.

Also, there simply are no 'sure things' when it comes to the future and all players could have been described as 'unproven' at one time--and the luckier ones become 30 years olds with something to prove.
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pnies20 wrote:
bulldog wrote:
pnies20 wrote:
bruceb wrote:
bulldog wrote:
pnies20 wrote:
Even though I wanted Warford in the worst way, I really like what they've done with the OL this year.


Practically nothing?


Nice beginning!

I agree

While I get the strategy of taking chances on a lot of long shots and hoping one of them hits, another strategy -- taking a favorite (e.g., Orb in the Kentucky Derby) -- usually works better over the long run, so to speak!


They got what they could with no picks in which to do it....

So if one of them is a solid starter and one is a decent backup what then? WHAT A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

They picked up solid players from a trash heap.


They did do what they could with what they had, for sure.

But they are not solid players. They are from a trash heap though. They are what the browns thought were best of what was left over that other teams didn't want earlier (including the browns)

They could become solid players. Or in this case, start staying healthy. But its not a sure thing that any of that happens. The fact is they signed a 30 year old backup that has a laundry list of injuries and a few unproven rookies.

In my book, thats practically nothing.


I'm fairly confident we've got a couple players who could end up starting at G in Cave and Gilkey. I'm also fairly certain butler, who is healthy, can be a decent swing tackle.


Yes, and I think a good swing tackle has been missing from this team for decades.
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