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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bermuda Viking wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
There are too many poor punters across the league, Kluwe wont have a problem finding work.


Only if he goes cheap. Otherwise he will be managing his band and game store.


And he can't go any cheaper than the vet minimum for him, which is $870,000...and there are several punters that will make less than that, so Kluwe may actually have difficulty.
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A soccer player most of his life, Jeff Locke had never seen a football game until he became the kickoff specialist at his high school in Glendale, Ariz. He played both sports through his first three years of high school, but once he became a senior and college football programs started calling, Locke made a decision: Soccer was out. His study of economics at UCLA, it turned out, dovetailed nicely with his life in football. Former teammate (and current Titans cornerback) Alterraun Verner introduced Locke to the NCPA, and that opened his eyes to the plight of his teammates, particularly the ones who weren't as shrewd with their money as Locke.

The study to which Locke contributed is titled "The Price of Poverty in Big-Time College Sport," and estimates what high-profile college athletes would be worth if the NCAA split revenues evenly with its players, like the NFL does. In that study, the NCPA says the average full scholarship player on a FBS football team actually lives below the federal poverty line.

Locke: "No other part of society has a cap on an income level. I think there needs to be some changes in college athletics. There needs to be some adamant discussions -- people actually wanting to change it, not just talking. Five to 10 years from now, I don't see how it can't change. Something's going to have to happen, whether it's a split in the NCAA between the big schools and the small schools, or some other major change."

http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_23310531/minnesota-vikings-new-punter-jeff-locke-social-crusader


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly an egghead nerd like him has to play video games, right?

He's gotta try to replace Kluwe in that regard, too Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vike daddy wrote:
In that study, the NCPA says the average full scholarship player on a FBS football team actually lives below the federal poverty line.


Well if you don't count the $20+k worth of schooling plus free healthcare I suppose they're really scraping by. LOL

Nobody puts a gun to their heads BTW. They could just PAY for their college like the rest of the students if they're getting ripped off so badly. Pathetic and ungrateful.

I want Kluwe back. He was controversial and intelligent. This guy is just controversial.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I want Kluwe back. He was controversial and intelligent. This guy is just controversial.

well, you better get over the loss of Kluwe, he isn't coming back.

as to thinking Locke isn't intelligent, he majored in economics at UCLA and pulled a 3.88 GPA while spending a lot of time in athletics too. as to thinking he's controversial, it's pretty much the opposite -

Locke: "I haven't really thought about any type of off-field stuff, like this NCPA stuff, at this moment. I'm just coming in every day and trying to get better at punting. We'll see down the road."

http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_23310531/minnesota-vikings-new-punter-jeff-locke-social-crusader


it wasn't Locke that said college players are below the poverty line, it was the NCPA. not a quote from Locke.
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The NCAA is making millions upon millions off of these kids. They don't need to be paid like professional athletes but I do believe the deserve some compensation. Maybe a $2000 a month allowance. A lot of these football programs allow other sports to exist on campus and I feel they should be compensated in ways other than their scholarship.
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Vikefan79 wrote:
A lot of these football programs allow other sports to exist on campus

How generous of them...
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vikefan79 wrote:
The NCAA is making millions upon millions off of these kids. They don't need to be paid like professional athletes but I do believe the deserve some compensation. Maybe a $2000 a month allowance. A lot of these football programs allow other sports to exist on campus and I feel they should be compensated in ways other than their scholarship.


I believe they get stipends too for living expenses, in addition to tuition. I think college athletes should be paid enough to have a comfortable college life without working part time (lets face it, no college athlete has the time to take on part time work).

But they shouldnt be compensated enough to be able to afford nice cars and luxury items because I think that creates an attitude of entitlement, and that might go against what colleges want from there student body.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
The NCAA is making millions upon millions off of these kids. They don't need to be paid like professional athletes but I do believe the deserve some compensation. Maybe a $2000 a month allowance. A lot of these football programs allow other sports to exist on campus and I feel they should be compensated in ways other than their scholarship.


I believe they get stipends too for living expenses, in addition to tuition. I think college athletes should be paid enough to have a comfortable college life without working part time (lets face it, no college athlete has the time to take on part time work).

But they shouldnt be compensated enough to be able to afford nice cars and luxury items because I think that creates an attitude of entitlement, and that might go against what colleges want from there student body.


I agree with that which is why I think $2,000 a month is plenty.
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Klomp wrote:
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A lot of these football programs allow other sports to exist on campus

How generous of them...


It is. The LaCrosse team or Soccer team at Alabama has no problems getting the facilities and gear they need because the football team is generating the money to pay for it.
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They could just PAY for their college like the rest of the students .


They could, and playing football at the college level could be treated like a part-time job where they got a percentage of revenue as salary. And then, after they use that salary to pay of their tuition fees, they'll still have millions of dollars left over for living expenses. Everyone wins!
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Shorty McFast wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
In that study, the NCPA says the average full scholarship player on a FBS football team actually lives below the federal poverty line.


Well if you don't count the $20+k worth of schooling plus free healthcare I suppose they're really scraping by. LOL

Nobody puts a gun to their heads BTW. They could just PAY for their college like the rest of the students if they're getting ripped off so badly. Pathetic and ungrateful.

I want Kluwe back. He was controversial and intelligent. This guy is just controversial.


Superior college athletes and superior academic students dont need to pay for college because of the scholarship opportunities. its how top schools attract top talent. if you dont fit in one of these categories, you pay for school. its that simple.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Superior college athletes and superior academic students dont need to pay for college because of the scholarship opportunities. its how top schools attract top talent.


It's not that simple. There's a ton of students who turn down scholarships for various reasons. I know this because my daughter turned down offers because she wanted to study a specific subject.
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They could, and playing football at the college level could be treated like a part-time job where they got a percentage of revenue as salary.


What companies hire college students and pay them a percentage of revenues? I have a second child entering college and I'd love to know.
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Vikefan79 wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
The NCAA is making millions upon millions off of these kids. They don't need to be paid like professional athletes but I do believe the deserve some compensation. Maybe a $2000 a month allowance. A lot of these football programs allow other sports to exist on campus and I feel they should be compensated in ways other than their scholarship.


I believe they get stipends too for living expenses, in addition to tuition. I think college athletes should be paid enough to have a comfortable college life without working part time (lets face it, no college athlete has the time to take on part time work).

But they shouldnt be compensated enough to be able to afford nice cars and luxury items because I think that creates an attitude of entitlement, and that might go against what colleges want from there student body.


I agree with that which is why I think $2,000 a month is plenty.


they do get a stipend...if they live off campus..ie..not in campus housing..i know a few years ago it was almost 1800$ a month...which is plenty...you figure they have at least 1 or 2 roomates...typically at Ohio state the property management companies charge per person not a flat rate for rent...usually 600-800 per person which includes utilities...so that leaves 1000$month for food..probably 100$ week for food...leaves about 150$ a week to use for whatever...

Plus at OSU at least..these guys are treated like kings...get into bars for free..no waiting in line..free drinks..alot of resteraunts give them free food or very deep discounts
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