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Bennie Logan, DT, LSU - Round 3, Pick 5 (67th Overall)
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beachside_eagle wrote:
I hope Bennie can be something down the road. He looks fairly inconsistent in college but even against Warmack he didn't look outclassed the whole time. One of the little things I like is that he quickly recognizes if he won't be getting to the QB and moves to fill a passing lane and gets his hand up. He seems to tip a few balls each game.

Can't wait to see how they use him. Looks like he could put on some weight and be a NT but he also has the athleticism to be a DE.
Inconsistent? How does one gauge consistency or lack of consistency in a DL, when half of the plays are ran away from said DT, and when he is surrounded by the likes of Mingo and Montgomery among others?
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EagleBlueDon wrote:
beachside_eagle wrote:
I hope Bennie can be something down the road. He looks fairly inconsistent in college but even against Warmack he didn't look outclassed the whole time. One of the little things I like is that he quickly recognizes if he won't be getting to the QB and moves to fill a passing lane and gets his hand up. He seems to tip a few balls each game.

Can't wait to see how they use him. Looks like he could put on some weight and be a NT but he also has the athleticism to be a DE.
Inconsistent? How does one gauge consistency or lack of consistency in a DL, when half of the plays are ran away from said DT, and when he is surrounded by the likes of Mingo and Montgomery among others?

On the tape I saw of him, he looked like a player sticking to his gap assignment. That's exactly what he'll need to be doing if he plays DT in this system, so I'm hoping we get to see him step in for Soap a lot this season.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was down there for LSU's Pro Day. Bennie was by far the leader of that defensive group. He had to push [Sam] Montgomery through the workout.


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He's not real tall, but he's a good athlete who can move around. He's pretty versatile. He can play the 1-technique. I wouldn't count him out as a '3,' either. And he can play the 5-technique [end in a 3-4]. He can be a productive rotational player for them right away


http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20130502_NFL_personnel_guy_likes_Eagles__draft.html

Interesting take on the selection of Logan. Pretty intriguing saying that he was "by far the leader of that defensive group," being that he was just a junior on a top 10 defense in the country.
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Logan also said in an interview that the Eagles are making him learn "all techniques" at the DL.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because I had not really paid attention to Logan due to his size not matching what I had initially perceived as Kelly's preference, I initially found him to be one of the more questionable picks in this draft. Now, after doing some research, I find him to be one of the least questionable picks. Interesting...
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Soooo uhm yea. We could have taken Brandon or Jesse Williams instead of this man.
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Soooo uhm yea. We could have taken Brandon or Jesse Williams instead of this man.

True...but neither fit as well as Bennie does
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oland11 wrote:
Soooo uhm yea. We could have taken Brandon or Jesse Williams instead of this man.

True...but neither fit as well as Bennie does


We don't even know what we're going to run. We're just assuming it'll be 43-Under. And even if we were still running a 43, we could have drafted them to play NT in the 43DT position. or in the 34NT position. But it just so happens we're supposed to run a system where a lesser player would be considered better in.
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I think Logan has as much if not the most upside of any DT in this draft. LMAO at Jesse Williams, he has the worst lower body genetics ever, dude is going to be limited at the next level.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oland11 wrote:
Soooo uhm yea. We could have taken Brandon or Jesse Williams instead of this man.


You have to remember what Chip wants though. His offense is going to be running at a very high tempo and should be scoring a lot of points. He can't have any big plodders out there, even his nose tackles need to have the stamina to play a lot of snaps and offer at least something in the pass rush.

Logan is a big guy who can be a force in the run game, especially playing next to Fletcher Cox. He's conditioned enough to stay on the field and play high amounts of snaps while he's able to get off the field when needed too. Plus he's versatile and gives them some more flexibility with their sub-packages.

Nickel package of:

.....Kendricks-Ryans
Cole-Cox-Logan-Graham

Is pretty good. Better than whatever the Williams-es could've offered.
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I think Logan has as much if not the most upside of any DT in this draft. LMAO at Jesse Williams, he has the worst lower body genetics ever, dude is going to be limited at the next level.


He does have really skinny legs for a big guy.
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Meco wrote:
oland11 wrote:
Soooo uhm yea. We could have taken Brandon or Jesse Williams instead of this man.


You have to remember what Chip wants though. His offense is going to be running at a very high tempo and should be scoring a lot of points. He can't have any big plodders out there, even his nose tackles need to have the stamina to play a lot of snaps and offer at least something in the pass rush.

Logan is a big guy who can be a force in the run game, especially playing next to Fletcher Cox. He's conditioned enough to stay on the field and play high amounts of snaps while he's able to get off the field when needed too. Plus he's versatile and gives them some more flexibility with their sub-packages.

Nickel package of:

.....Kendricks-Ryans
Cole-Cox-Logan-Graham

Is pretty good. Better than whatever the Williams-es could've offered.

Or if Curry plays LDE in Nickel, Graham or Hunt can also fill in at RDE. The nickel line will have some exciting looks for sure.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oland11 wrote:
Kiltman wrote:
oland11 wrote:
Soooo uhm yea. We could have taken Brandon or Jesse Williams instead of this man.

True...but neither fit as well as Bennie does


We don't even know what we're going to run. We're just assuming it'll be 43-Under. And even if we were still running a 43, we could have drafted them to play NT in the 43DT position. or in the 34NT position. But it just so happens we're supposed to run a system where a lesser player would be considered better in.


Yes but chip knows what he's going to run so I'm sure he took a player who fills what he wanted
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oland11 wrote:
Kiltman wrote:
oland11 wrote:
Soooo uhm yea. We could have taken Brandon or Jesse Williams instead of this man.

True...but neither fit as well as Bennie does


We don't even know what we're going to run. We're just assuming it'll be 43-Under. And even if we were still running a 43, we could have drafted them to play NT in the 43DT position. or in the 34NT position. But it just so happens we're supposed to run a system where a lesser player would be considered better in.

Bennie in their eyes can play any spot along the Dline....so he fits the versatile style they want.

But then we must remember that Davis has complete control of the defense, and when he's had that he ran an under. So one would think that it will be the desired system to get to eventually...might not be this year but it's a fair chance that's the endgame.

Also neither would fit a NT in an under as it a one gap penetrator not a space eating double team taking kind that they are which is featured in a traditional 3-4.

So by taking Bennie they have a guy who 1. Seems to be a pretty good leader, which this team lacks and 2. will be able to help if we do indeed play in a 3-4 this year by playing an end spot before we likely switch to the under where he fits best.

Versatility, leadership, attitude, and fit is what seperated him from Jesse IMO and they both were seperated from Brandon because of level of competition. (Which Howie and Chip talked about being important to them)
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiltman wrote:
oland11 wrote:
Kiltman wrote:
oland11 wrote:
Soooo uhm yea. We could have taken Brandon or Jesse Williams instead of this man.

True...but neither fit as well as Bennie does


We don't even know what we're going to run. We're just assuming it'll be 43-Under. And even if we were still running a 43, we could have drafted them to play NT in the 43DT position. or in the 34NT position. But it just so happens we're supposed to run a system where a lesser player would be considered better in.

Bennie in their eyes can play any spot along the Dline....so he fits the versatile style they want.

But then we must remember that Davis has complete control of the defense, and when he's had that he ran an under. So one would think that it will be the desired system to get to eventually...might not be this year but it's a fair chance that's the endgame.

Also neither would fit a NT in an under as it a one gap penetrator not a space eating double team taking kind that they are which is featured in a traditional 3-4.

So by taking Bennie they have a guy who 1. Seems to be a pretty good leader, which this team lacks and 2. will be able to help if we do indeed play in a 3-4 this year by playing an end spot before we likely switch to the under where he fits best.

Versatility, leadership, attitude, and fit is what seperated him from Jesse IMO and they both were seperated from Brandon because of level of competition. (Which Howie and Chip talked about being important to them)


Indeed. Logan is a good player in his own right. Just because none of us paid attention to him doesn't mean he's the "lesser" player. He offers more leadership than either of those Williams as well. Further, he's leaps and bounds more versatile of a lineman than either. Which, in case you didn't notice, was a bit of a theme for this draft.

Johnson was the most athletic OT in the class and has experience at both tackle spots. Ertz is a TE who can also be a movable piece on offense. Logan can at least play the 1 and the 5, possibly the 3 as well in a pinch. Kruger played both OLB and DE in college. He has the frame and athleticism to bulk up to play the 5 or the 3. King played both DE and DT in college. Talented versatile guys. Look a little deeper into Logan, you'll find out the same thing I did. He is far from a "legitimately questionable" pick.
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