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99th Overall Pick: ILB Nico Johnson, Alabama
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Diesel2692


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone thought we would take Barkley with that 4th rounder if philly had not traded up in front of us. Word from KC is that we wouldn't have that NICO was the guy all along we would have taken no matter what.

Can't wait to see what this guy can do inside for us.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very well might be my favorite pick in the draft. Hard-nosed battle tested ILB that comes from an incredible college program. Never missed a start, high production, Captain of a team that was filled with captains. Absolutely love this pick and expect big things out of Nico.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marnz wrote:
Tbe thing I love about this pick is his weakness are a complete nonfactor on how we will use him


+1

I agree completely.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigschmadt00 wrote:

I think in today's NFL DJ is a perfect fit for SILB. He's BA against the run and good enough to cover all RBs and most TEs. Ideally I wanted someone next to him about his equal. Someone who could also cover anything short of a WR and be physical in the run game.

The days of a thumper ILB are over IMO. Some teams may choose that way, but IMO its a way of the past. Give me two ILBs who can cover and I'll be a happy man. That way we don't tip our hand switching guys.

Switching to a nickel or dime is already "tipped off". You remove a DT anyway. However I'd have preferred a better athlete.

Let's all remember this guy is an R4 pick. Odds are against him being a starter long term.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mongo wrote:
bigschmadt00 wrote:

I think in today's NFL DJ is a perfect fit for SILB. He's BA against the run and good enough to cover all RBs and most TEs. Ideally I wanted someone next to him about his equal. Someone who could also cover anything short of a WR and be physical in the run game.

The days of a thumper ILB are over IMO. Some teams may choose that way, but IMO its a way of the past. Give me two ILBs who can cover and I'll be a happy man. That way we don't tip our hand switching guys.

Switching to a nickel or dime is already "tipped off". You remove a DT anyway. However I'd have preferred a better athlete.

Let's all remember this guy is an R4 pick. Odds are against him being a starter long term.


The same is essentially true of first rounders.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mongo wrote:
bigschmadt00 wrote:

I think in today's NFL DJ is a perfect fit for SILB. He's BA against the run and good enough to cover all RBs and most TEs. Ideally I wanted someone next to him about his equal. Someone who could also cover anything short of a WR and be physical in the run game.

The days of a thumper ILB are over IMO. Some teams may choose that way, but IMO its a way of the past. Give me two ILBs who can cover and I'll be a happy man. That way we don't tip our hand switching guys.

Switching to a nickel or dime is already "tipped off". You remove a DT anyway. However I'd have preferred a better athlete.

Let's all remember this guy is an R4 pick. Odds are against him being a starter long term.


I am guessing that is what some people said when the Patriots drafted Tom Brady in the 6th round.

I am guessing people said Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf were long term solutions too because they were the 1st and 2nd overall picks.

Where someone is picked, in all honesty, gives no indication of how productive they can be or how much of a "long term" solution they will be. Kurt Warner was an UDFA and was highly productive in the league and ultimately won the Super Bowl.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im excited to see Nico run downhill and wallop RBs.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mongo, if nobody other than a first round pick has a chance to contribute long term and start immediately, why do we even go thru the process. I hate this negativity all the time.....Please, for the rest of us, what DO you like about anything the Chief's have done??
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mongo wrote:
bigschmadt00 wrote:

I think in today's NFL DJ is a perfect fit for SILB. He's BA against the run and good enough to cover all RBs and most TEs. Ideally I wanted someone next to him about his equal. Someone who could also cover anything short of a WR and be physical in the run game.

The days of a thumper ILB are over IMO. Some teams may choose that way, but IMO its a way of the past. Give me two ILBs who can cover and I'll be a happy man. That way we don't tip our hand switching guys.

Switching to a nickel or dime is already "tipped off". You remove a DT anyway. However I'd have preferred a better athlete.

Let's all remember this guy is an R4 pick. Odds are against him being a starter long term.


Let's also remember this is the least important position on our D, so given that Belcher started for like 3 years, I don't think the odds are really up against him. If he plays like a 4th round pick, that will be plenty good and we'll be in no hurry to replace him...only if an upgrade presents itself.
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Pat Kerwin says this about players. "If they hit you with their eyes closed, put them on Offense. If they hit you with their eyes open, put them on defense. If they hit you with their eyes open, smile and wink....make them a captain." This IS Nico Johnson. Nuff said.....4th round pick or not!!!!

PLENTY happy with this pick.
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jimmydee wrote:
Pat Kerwin says this about players. "If they hit you with their eyes closed, put them on Offense. If they hit you with their eyes open, put them on defense. If they hit you with their eyes open, smile and wink....make them a captain." This IS Nico Johnson. Nuff said.....4th round pick or not!!!!

PLENTY happy with this pick.


Read today that Nico watched Ray Lewis speeches to pump him up pre game.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night I watched the Western Kentucky - Alabama game from last year as I wanted to get a look at Quanterus Smith (our 5th round pick). I must say, I loved the way Johnson attacks lead blockers. Seems like a physical Football player.
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lomaxgr wrote:
Last night I watched the Western Kentucky - Alabama game from last year as I wanted to get a look at Quanterus Smith (our 5th round pick). I must say, I loved the way Johnson attacks lead blockers. Seems like a physical Football player.


yup and i must say i hate you guys got ball he is a great player
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimmydee wrote:
Mongo, if nobody other than a first round pick has a chance to contribute long term and start immediately, why do we even go thru the process. I hate this negativity all the time.....Please, for the rest of us, what DO you like about anything the Chief's have done??

Lots of fourth rounders make solid contributions everyday in the NFL. Its not realistic to assume anything more than that from Nico. Its unlikely he be a long term starter.

Negativity? I said I liked the pick. Sorry to introduce some reality into anyone's delusion.

All of the time? Simply not true. Some people only tend to focus on the negative. I won't waste everyone's time listing the things I like, it's simply not everything.

Some people are incapable of accepting the slightest bit of criticism. I'd hate to be their boss at review time. This type of employee gets a good review overall and a raise, but still wants to complain about the one or two sub-par grades.
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kcstomp63 wrote:

I am guessing that is what some people said when the Patriots drafted Tom Brady in the 6th round.

I am guessing people said Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf were long term solutions too because they were the 1st and 2nd overall picks.

Where someone is picked, in all honesty, gives no indication of how productive they can be or how much of a "long term" solution they will be. Kurt Warner was an UDFA and was highly productive in the league and ultimately won the Super Bowl.

I disagree. Where someone is picked gives a high indication of how well they'll perform in the NFL. Otherwise, there'd be no draft. All players would be free agents, able to sign where they please.

It's about probability. A first round pick has a higher probability of being a superstar, being a contributor, or even simply making a roster than a sixth round pick like a Tom Brady.

Yes "Tom Brady" events happen, which makes the draft so cool. But for every Tom, there's thousands of Dickies and Harrys that never make it.

MORAL: Its ok to hope for a Tom, but your R6 pick is more likely to be a Harry Dickie.
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