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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would cost about $1.5 - 2mil to sign, he has a $1.3million tender right now.


That'd be guaranteed $$ right??


I *think* so, yes.

It seems it would have to be, but I don't know for sure.
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Pittsburgh would have to restructure some contracts to sign him, yes?


If we sign him to an offer sheet, they would have to match it or let him walk.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

incognito_man wrote:
The Kuhn wrote:
incognito_man wrote:
Would cost about $1.5 - 2mil to sign, he has a $1.3million tender right now.


That'd be guaranteed $$ right??


I *think* so, yes.

It seems it would have to be, but I don't know for sure.
I don't think he would sign an offer sheet that had less then his 1.3 million guaranteed that the Steelers tendered him at so it would have to be more guaranteed then 1.3 million.
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Don't know much about the guy, but think if he's a talented player, this would be a great move on TT's part. I think too many NFL GMs have been giving RFAs tenders that are lower than their skill level simply because no other teams really seem interested in signing other teams' RFAs. Taking advantage of Pittsburgh's lousy cap situation would be very opportunistic.


TT is one of those GMs. Shields, EDS, and Crabtree were all tendered (or not tendered) a tier lower than what we all thought. Wouldn't be shocked to see PITT make a move at EDS for revenge. Prolly wont happen, but I wouldn't rule it out.

Also, PITT has to have some restructures in their back pocket. They need cap to sign their draft picks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wouldn't be shocked to see PITT make a move at EDS for revenge. Prolly wont happen, but I wouldn't rule it out.


They have Pouncey at center and are stuck against the cap. Wouldn't make much sense at all.
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I read Pitt has about 2 to 3 million minus money set aside for draft picks.
Leaves them with 700 to 750, 000 clear cap space.


Im just a reader though. Don't know no cap fandango.

The Pitt fans fear the Packers will drive up the price on him,
forcing a restructure somewhere.
Also to repeat what I read, it seems he was groomed to
be the starter this year. 3 or 4 years in the league with playing
time. Forcing them to keep their aging starter or counter offer.
The (same) guy who he was to replace referred to him as a "beast".

We would not lose a draft pick because of some rule I glossed over.

I hope it goes through. It's like an extra pick.
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Because he wasn't drafted? Is that a thing?
could that be a reason no draft picks get traded?
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I have never heard of the guy, how good is he? What was his role in Pittsburgh?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have never heard of the guy, how good is he? What was his role in Pittsburgh?
Back up NT, will start with Hampton gone. He filled in for Hampton due to injury, and actually played better.
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blankman0021 wrote:
northernpackfan wrote:
Don't know much about the guy, but think if he's a talented player, this would be a great move on TT's part. I think too many NFL GMs have been giving RFAs tenders that are lower than their skill level simply because no other teams really seem interested in signing other teams' RFAs. Taking advantage of Pittsburgh's lousy cap situation would be very opportunistic.


TT is one of those GMs. Shields, EDS, and Crabtree were all tendered (or not tendered) a tier lower than what we all thought. Wouldn't be shocked to see PITT make a move at EDS for revenge. Prolly wont happen, but I wouldn't rule it out.

Also, PITT has to have some restructures in their back pocket. They need cap to sign their draft picks.
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Palmy, how do you feel about this? Wink
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Niiiiiiiiiiice I knew Thompson would make a good move
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BobSacamano wrote:
Palmy, how do you feel about this? Wink
Palmy will probably stay out of this for obvious reasons, but I imagine the reply goes something along the lines of "Kid's one hell of a football player! Filled in very well for Hampton. It'd be a real shame if Pittsburg was to lose him, but this is one very shrewd move by Thompson."
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AaronCharles wrote:
Pittsburgh would have to restructure some contracts to sign him, yes?


His 1.3 mill tender is already counted against the cap, so they could theoretically match offers up to 2mil without making a move.

They could also pull Redman's tender if necessary.

As to the questions about his role in Pitt, he was a passing down wave player. He has accumulated about 40% of a single seasons worth of snaps in his 4 years on the squad and produced 22 tackles and 3 sacks in that time.

He struggles at the POA when 2 gapping and does not command a double consistently which is what has limited him to nickel package wave player status.

He's decent depth, but unless something has changed drastically either the player or the scheme, he's not a base down NT in our system.

Given our lack of proven depth at the position I think it speaks volumes that they offered the original round tender.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

treat88 wrote:
AaronCharles wrote:
Pittsburgh would have to restructure some contracts to sign him, yes?


His 1.3 mill tender is already counted against the cap, so they could theoretically match offers up to 2mil without making a move.

They could also pull Redman's tender if necessary.

As to the questions about his role in Pitt, he was a passing down wave player. He has accumulated about 40% of a single seasons worth of snaps in his 4 years on the squad and produced 22 tackles and 3 sacks in that time.

He struggles at the POA when 2 gapping and does not command a double consistently which is what has limited him to nickel package wave player status.

He's decent depth, but unless something has changed drastically either the player or the scheme, he's not a base down NT in our system.

Given our lack of proven depth at the position I think it speaks volumes that they offered the original round tender.


Makes a lot of sense as to why we'd be bringing him in as a back-up. We need guys that can be stout against the run. He doesn't sound like that kind of player from your description. Might just be signed as a cheap stop-gap player in the event Pittsburgh doesn't match which would probably sound likely here. I'd barely go over that 1.3 million tender mark if I can.
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