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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Packers Offseason Mock 4 Reply with quote

Packers 2013 Offseason!
Version 4

Retire:

Jeff Saturday
Donald Driver

Released/Not Resigned:

Greg Jennings: I don’t know why he’d ponder Ponder Smile
Charles Woodson: Cut
Ryan Grant: If they want to bring him back he’ll be out there to do so after the season starts.
Cedric Benson: I think we could use a veteran RB, but I don’t think it is Benson.
Frank Zombo: Good luck in Kansas City
Robert Francois: Didn’t pan out the way they wanted, have a healthy Terrel Manning to take his spot this year.
Erik Walden: Ha ha ha to the Colts, 4 years 16 million!! That’s a bad signing, good for Walden though.
Tom Crabtree: I can’t believe the cave man is gone.

Resigned:

Sam Shields: Becoming a core player the Packers can’t lose.
Brad Jones: Happy to see him back, could take over for Hawk next year.
EDS: Have to have something at center going into the season, and is a nice backup to have for the interior of the line.

Free Agency:

Ted doesn’t go after big names in free agency the much but he does always sign guys that he thinks can help the team.

Richard Seymour: Yes he’s older, but the longer he stays unsigned the cheaper he will be. He’ll show the young guys how to play in the NFL. And he’ll want to play for a contender after being in the armpit of the NFL for so long.


The Draft!

1st Round Pick
Jonathan Cyprien FS – Florida International
6’-1” 208 lbs, Arms: 31.75” Hands: 10.25”
40: 4.64 Broad: 9’-11” Vert: 38.5” Bench: 18
Cyprien wasn’t really on any ones radar until the senior bowl where he out shined bigger named safeties like TJ McDonald and Bazzari Rambo with his hard hitting in the run game and with his ability to cover WR and TE’s. He’s 40 time isn’t blazing, but scouts have said he plays like he runs a 4.4. Played in every game as a freshman with seven starts, and has 365 tackles for his college career. One thing I really like about him is his durability. He’s started every game for the past three years and has 45 starts at safety overall. He knows how to play the position and we really need to start thinking safety with both Burnett and MD Jennings being free agents next year.

2nd Round Pick
Johnathan Franklin, RB – UCLA
5’-10” 205 lbs, Arms: 30” Hands: 9.5”
40: 4.46 Broad: 9’-7” Vert: 31.5” Bench: 18
All you really need to know about Franklin can be summed up in a quote from cbs sports “Franklin thrived in 2012 as part of UCLA's zone-read offense, routinely making something out of nothing with his fast, tough and energetic running style.” The Packers currently have backs that make nothing out of nothing. Franklin is a back with good speed, great vision with experience with zone blocking, and was very good at catching the ball in position workouts. Personally I don’t know why he’s rated so low on sites and could see him going earlier than this. But if he’s here I like him more than Bell or Ball.

3rd Round Pick
Barrett Jones, C – Alabama
6’-5” 306 lbs, Arms: 34.25” Hands: 10.25”
40: 5.43 Broad: **** Vert: **** Bench: ***
Remember two months ago when we were projecting him to the Packers in the first? Amazing what a lisfranc surgery will do to your draft stock. Now I’m hearing some teams think he’ll start the year on the PUP list. But I don’t care. I think he’s talent is too good to pass up. Jones will be a center of the future with EDS working on a one year tender deal. I see him taking over the starting spot latter in the year if he can’t go in training camp. With Sherrod hopefully coming back and showing he has first round talent our line could be very good down the stretch.

4th Round Pick
Stedman Bailey, WR – West Virginia
5’-10” 193 lbs, Arms: 32.75” Hands: 10”
40: 4.46 Broad: 9’-9” Vert: 34.5” Bench: 11
Though Austin gets all the hype Bailey was more productive at West Virginia finishing last season with 114 receptions, 1,622 yards and 25 touchdowns (According to sports-reference.com). Bailey tracks the ball very well and shows outstanding body control and timing on deep passes. He has excellent hand/eye coordination and is a natural hands-catcher, snatching it away from his body with strong hands and making tough catches look easy.

5th Round Pick
Chris Faulk, OT – LSU
6’-6” 331 lbs, Arms: 34.25” Hands: 9.75”
40: 5.08 Broad: Vert: Bench: 25
Chris Faulk was one of the best OT prospect heading into last year after a very good 2011 campaign as the starting left tackle for the Tigers. Without being able to work out before the draft Faulk is falling, and that’s perfect for the Packers. Faulk is a dominant run blocker who can latch on and drive his man out of the play. He’s still athletic enough though to hit a cut block and get to the second level. He shut down lesser competition in the pass rush game but was adequate against the top tear pass rushers. Most of this came from his technic and foot work. If the Packers coaching staff can clear that up they’ll have a top ten left tackle on their hands!

5th Round Comp Pick For Matt Flynn
Quanterus Smith, OLB – Western Kentucky University
6’-5” 250 lbs, Arms:33.25 Hands: 10.5"
40: 4.71 Broad: 10’-1” Vert: 37” Bench: 24
One of my favorite pass rushing linebackers in this years draft! Smith will be a pick for the future by the fact he’ll probably start the season on the PUP list. But the Packers will be getting a heck of a player with this comp pick. Smith had 12.5 sacks in only 10 games last year! And if you want to say that’s because of the conference he plays in think again, 3.5 of those sacks came against Alabama’s Oline. DJ Fluker who is in Kipers top 25 couldn’t contain this guy. He not only has different pass rushing moves but he also knows how to setup the opposing OT for those moves. Not sure if he’ll ever be more than a third down pass rusher, but can you complain if his a great pass rusher?

6th Round Pick
Kyle Juszczyk, FB – Harvard
6’-1” 248 lbs, Arms: Hands:
40: 4.71 Broad: 10’-1” Vert: 37” Bench: 24
There’s a growing commotion that John Kuhn is over paid for what he provides, and I actually agree to an extent. I think we have to over pay him because we have nobody else that can do what he does. Enter Juszczyk, I like to compare him to old William Henderson. This guy blocks, runs, and even got split out wide at Harvard because he had some of the best hands on the team. It would be great if the Packers could incorporate some third down screens into their game like they use to and keep the defense honest. This pick could spell the end for Kuhn this year and his 2 million dollar salary, or more likely just give the Packers a replacement for next year when Kuhn is a free agent.


7th Round Pick
Glenn Foster DT – Illinois
6’-4” 286 lbs, Arms: Hands:
40: 4.78 Broad: 10’-9” Vert: 39.5” Bench: 29
Because of injuries two years ago Foster got plug in at DT despite only weighing 255 (Back than he actually ran in the 4.4’s). Even being undersized he held he’s own in the middle against 300 pound linemen, he did so good in fact that he had to play DT again the next year while still only weighing 255. Last year was the first year he bulked up to 280+ and continued to be a good run stuffer that was asked to hold up blockers and not rush the passer. A victim of his own success Foster was not able to show off he’s crazy athleticism. Here are his numbers compared to JJ Watts when he came out.

Glenn Foster, DL, Illinois: Compared to JJ Watt:
6'4", 286 lbs 6'5", 290 lbs
39.5" vertical 37" vertical
10'9" broad jump 10' 0" broad jump
4.79 40 4.81 40
1.65 10yd 1.64 10yd
4.45 20yd shuttle 4.21 20yd shuttle
7.15 3 cone 6.88 3 cone

Now I’m not saying he’s going to be as good as JJ Watt, but I’ll definitely take a guy with these numbers in the seventh round!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a big fan of the first three picks but you give solid reasoning behind the choices. Where the draft really hits it's stride is round four. Really like the prospects from that point on and again solid reasoning behind them. Foster is an interesting prospect. While some of his numbers are comparable to Watts' it's his shuttle and 3cone that are what really makes his numbers pop and Foster isn't really close to those. Like you said though, those numbers are easily worth a look in the seventh. Almost zero interest in Seymour in free agency. Maybe for a vet minimum contract but he'd likely just retire rather than play if that's all he is offered.
Well done overall.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'd have to get darned lucky to hit those guys at those slots.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solid draft top to bottom and addresses key needs. I really like Cyprien but I'm not sure Ted will go safety in the first seeing as how he reportedly likes McMillian and the depth at safety this yr is great. Love Franklin at RB, fine w/ him in the 2nd, like Jones and Bailey as well. Faulk seems to have good upside, and Smith would be a nice depth addition at OLB.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

packattack86 wrote:
Solid draft top to bottom and addresses key needs. I really like Cyprien but I'm not sure Ted will go safety in the first seeing as how he reportedly likes McMillian and the depth at safety this yr is great. Love Franklin at RB, fine w/ him in the 2nd, like Jones and Bailey as well. Faulk seems to have good upside, and Smith would be a nice depth addition at OLB.


I was debating on going with a DLineman in the first over Cyprien. If TT doesn't go safety early I don't think he drafts one. I'm a big fan of Franklin and think he's the best RB for the Packers in the draft.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Packers Offseason Mock 4 Reply with quote

Bleed G&G wrote:

All you really need to know about Franklin can be summed up in a quote from cbs sports “Franklin thrived in 2012 as part of UCLA's zone-read offense, routinely making something out of nothing with his fast, tough and energetic running style.” The Packers currently have backs that make nothing out of nothing. Franklin is a back with good speed, great vision with experience with zone blocking, and was very good at catching the ball in position workouts. Personally I don’t know why he’s rated so low on sites and could see him going earlier than this. But if he’s here I like him more than Bell or Ball.


Here's my quote from CBS Sports on Franklin:

Franklin boasts NFL-caliber speed and the ability to make defenders miss in tight quarters. He attacks the line of scrimmage and can squirt through in a blink, consistently giving the Bruins a big-play option from the running game.

He's affectionately been nicknamed "Jetski" by some on the team due to his ability to leave defenders in his wake. The catchy nickname is fun, but I have concerns about how well he'll transition to the NFL. Franklin lacks the bulk of an NFL lead back so he'd likely have to make a roster as a third-down specialist.

The problem is he hasn't demonstrated the reliable hands out of the backfield nor is he a stout blocker in pass protection -- two traits normally associated with the speedy change-of-pace options NFL teams are increasingly employing in this era of specialization.

Perhaps most alarming is that Franklin has struggled with ball security. He fumbled three times in a five game stretch last year and it has been a sporadic problem going back earlier in his career.


Also, go look at the roster of our current backs, you'll see a trend, one that Franklin has no part of.

As for the rest of this draft. Cyprien is gutter-trash but the rest of it is pretty good. I'm on the fence with Steadman Bailey. I think Josh Boyce is the better option there but I wouldn't mind grabbing Bailey at that point. I don't think we should be drafting OL outside of the Center position, but Faulk is great value there IMO. I think the 5th comp is a bit early for Smith but I wouldn't mind drafting him as a speed rusher on the outside.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Reid far better than Cyprien, no contest really. I also think better players will be available at 26. Couple of noticeable drops in this draft, but who knows. Everybody has Jones going in the late 2nd to early 3rd round. I know he's coming off a surgery, but this guy is much higher on team boards than he is in mock thought. It would not shock me to see him go as high as 12 overall. I don't think he will with Warmack and Cooper in the mix, but would not shock me. I see Jones going between 29 and 44, closer to the 29. He will NEVER be there in the late 3rd.

I like Franklin but don't see him giving us much more than we have in Harris. We need a compliment to Harris. That starts with Lacy, then Bell, and if nothing else a more complete player like Bernard. Taylor later if all else fails.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SE500 wrote:
Everybody has Jones going in the late 2nd to early 3rd round. I know he's coming off a surgery, but this guy is much higher on team boards than he is in mock thought. It would not shock me to see him go as high as 12 overall.


That is absolute crazy talk. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Cyprien, honestly in my mind don't know whom I'd pick if I could choose Reid or him. Would be great to have that decision though. I'm not a pro scout, nor haven't seen him play live or in a game, etc., so just not sure where Cyprien is at. But I love what I see in the kid.

I have nothing against Franklin, just not sure if he is that much different in what we have in Harris. And that's not a knock on him, just a general statement. I'd think we'd want something different such as getting a bruising type. Or a good 3rd down protecting type, or a awesome receiver out of the backfield type. Not saying he can't do any of those things, just to me he is sorta Harris 2.0. Which is good, but maybe we need a bruiser 1.0.

Players always fall, but your later picks in the draft are incredible. Not sure Ted can get them all, but would be nice.

Barrett Jones isn't your sexy pick, but the guy gets the job done and yes Packer fans he's versatile. The word many hate.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyprien runs a 4.64 40 and can't tackle. The reason people are so high on him is because he had a freak effort at the Senior Bowl and he's a hard hitter. The problem with his aggressiveness is that he lacks recovery speed and he leads with his helmet. Someone stuck up a video of him playing against Louisville and it was like watching Charlie Peprah play. Eric Reid is by far the better option of the two. He and Philip Thomas are easily the two most overrated prospects in this draft.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't care much for this draft
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