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Nice article on Staff, Linehan, and our predictable offense
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree we need to be less predictable. In terms of the run/pass ratio though, I think a lot of that is personnel. While lining up in shotgun takes Stafford's eyes off the field for a split second, it's the best way to avoid a pass rush (I think playing in shotgun had more to do with our decent sack numbers then our OL). Also, as was noted above Leshoure and Bell aren't suited to run out of shotgun. If we played under center more often, Stafford would have been hit more and it would hinder our greatest strength- the passing game. Linehan tried to establish the run quite often, we just weren't successful with it so we had to scrap it, and scrapping it in essence scraps our under center offense.

Don't get me wrong- Linehan certainly needs to be less predictable. I just think that personnel had more to do with it then we realize.
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Execution fails because defense ready. I don't know how many times last year my 9 year old called next play. That's hilarious

Players drop passes because the defense knows we're going to pass?
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TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Execution fails because defense ready. I don't know how many times last year my 9 year old called next play. That's hilarious

Players drop passes because the defense knows we're going to pass?


Why not? If the D knows what your gonna do, it makes whatever that is that much more difficult in any and every way.

Dlinemen can setup their rush better and get hands in lanes.

Corners can be more physical knowing they have 2 safeties 20 yards back.

Everything is just more congested.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Execution fails because defense ready. I don't know how many times last year my 9 year old called next play. That's hilarious

Players drop passes because the defense knows we're going to pass?


Why not? If the D knows what your gonna do, it makes whatever that is that much more difficult in any and every way.

Dlinemen can setup their rush better and get hands in lanes.

Corners can be more physical knowing they have 2 safeties 20 yards back.

Everything is just more congested.

I'm not talking about defensive adjustments... I'm talking about blatantly dropped passes. Bad blocks. Bad throws. Simple mistakes. Execution. If execution wasn't a problem, it would be easy for me to critique the play-calling.
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TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Execution fails because defense ready. I don't know how many times last year my 9 year old called next play. That's hilarious

Players drop passes because the defense knows we're going to pass?


Why not? If the D knows what your gonna do, it makes whatever that is that much more difficult in any and every way.

Dlinemen can setup their rush better and get hands in lanes.

Corners can be more physical knowing they have 2 safeties 20 yards back.

Everything is just more congested.

I'm not talking about defensive adjustments... I'm talking about blatantly dropped passes. Bad blocks. Bad throws. Simple mistakes. Execution. If execution wasn't a problem, it would be easy for me to critique the play-calling.


Can't both be critiqued?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diehardlionfan wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detroitroar wrote:
TL-TwoWinsAway wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Execution fails because defense ready. I don't know how many times last year my 9 year old called next play. That's hilarious

Players drop passes because the defense knows we're going to pass?


Why not? If the D knows what your gonna do, it makes whatever that is that much more difficult in any and every way.

Dlinemen can setup their rush better and get hands in lanes.

Corners can be more physical knowing they have 2 safeties 20 yards back.

Everything is just more congested.

I'm not talking about defensive adjustments... I'm talking about blatantly dropped passes. Bad blocks. Bad throws. Simple mistakes. Execution. If execution wasn't a problem, it would be easy for me to critique the play-calling.


Can't both be critiqued?

Both can and should. In my opinion, when execution is involved, it's hard for me to consider play-calling. I don't question a failed attempt at 4th and inches: if the running game can't get one yard, they failed to execute. At least, that's my take.
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