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RollTide99


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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drew39k wrote:
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BIG and i mean BIG news on the Revis front coming tomorrow or Tuesday. Hearing Tampa Bay has begun negotiations.


So far I cant find anything anywhere. Not looking legit.

Nothing this guy has said has looked legit ever.


He's the Incarcerated Bob of FF
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RollTide99 wrote:
skrILL wrote:
drew39k wrote:
TheManager wrote:
BIG and i mean BIG news on the Revis front coming tomorrow or Tuesday. Hearing Tampa Bay has begun negotiations.


So far I cant find anything anywhere. Not looking legit.

Nothing this guy has said has looked legit ever.


He's the Incarcerated Bob of FF
But worse since he gets nothing right.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMG wrote:
RollTide99 wrote:
skrILL wrote:
drew39k wrote:
TheManager wrote:
BIG and i mean BIG news on the Revis front coming tomorrow or Tuesday. Hearing Tampa Bay has begun negotiations.


So far I cant find anything anywhere. Not looking legit.

Nothing this guy has said has looked legit ever.


He's the Incarcerated Bob of FF
But worse since he gets nothing right.


Absolutely nothing.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turns out people take your first few trolls seriously if you name yourself something official sounding like "the manager". I feel we have been had lol. Though i was skeptical to begin with.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO need to trade him at this point. Once he starts running I see it being more realistic.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw someone posted this on another Jets site thought it was interesting and it kind of explains my thinking on being ok with trading Revis even though he is a great player.

Highest-paid non-quarterbacks, according to yearly average
Player Team Average pay per year
1) Calvin Johnson, WR Lions $16.2 million
2) Larry Fitzgerald, WR Cardinals $16.14 million
3) Mario Williams, DE Bills $16 million
4) Adrian Peterson, RB Vikings $14.38 million
5) Julius Peppers, DE Bears $14 million
6) Chris Johnson, RB Titans $13.49 million
7) DeMarcus Ware, DE/OLB Cowboys $13 million
Cool Jason Peters, OT Eagles $12.86 million
9) Charles Johnson, DE Panthers $12.67 million
10) Ndamukong Suh, DT Lions $12.6 million
11) Jared Allen, DE Vikings $12.21 million
12) Haloti Ngata, DT Ravens $12.2 million
13) Trent Cole, DE/OLB Eagles $12.13 million
14) Chris Long, DE Rams $12.05 million
15) Mike Wallace, WR Dolphins $12 million

Not a lot of great teams there. It isn't a nail in the coffin of not signing Revis to a lot of money, but it is certainly at least small evidence that other teams spending tons of money on non QB's has hindered their ability to build a team around said player.

Now i will concede that I wouldn't put all of these guys in Revis' class, but i would say 5-6 of them could be argued that they are around his level.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rampantjet wrote:
Saw someone posted this on another Jets site thought it was interesting and it kind of explains my thinking on being ok with trading Revis even though he is a great player.

Highest-paid non-quarterbacks, according to yearly average
Player Team Average pay per year
1) Calvin Johnson, WR Lions $16.2 million
2) Larry Fitzgerald, WR Cardinals $16.14 million
3) Mario Williams, DE Bills $16 million
4) Adrian Peterson, RB Vikings $14.38 million
5) Julius Peppers, DE Bears $14 million
6) Chris Johnson, RB Titans $13.49 million
7) DeMarcus Ware, DE/OLB Cowboys $13 million
Cool Jason Peters, OT Eagles $12.86 million
9) Charles Johnson, DE Panthers $12.67 million
10) Ndamukong Suh, DT Lions $12.6 million
11) Jared Allen, DE Vikings $12.21 million
12) Haloti Ngata, DT Ravens $12.2 million
13) Trent Cole, DE/OLB Eagles $12.13 million
14) Chris Long, DE Rams $12.05 million
15) Mike Wallace, WR Dolphins $12 million

Not a lot of great teams there. It isn't a nail in the coffin of not signing Revis to a lot of money, but it is certainly at least small evidence that other teams spending tons of money on non QB's has hindered their ability to build a team around said player.

Now i will concede that I wouldn't put all of these guys in Revis' class, but i would say 5-6 of them could be argued that they are around his level.


Megatron, AP, Ngata and Ware

but this is telling, however the difference is Revis is better than them all and the gap between the #1 player at their position and the #2 player is not was wide

Calvin Johnson and AJ Green aren't that far apart
Adrian Peterson and Arian Foster are far apart but not too far
Haloti Ngata and JJ Watt are neck and neck
Demarcus Ware and Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Clay Matthews and JPP are all top notch pass rushers
Darrelle Revis is far and away more dominant than Charles Tillman, Richard Sherman and Ladarius Webb

however 13M should be our max we pay him
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quick question

Why are jets moving revis?

Did he ask for trade? wants to play for a contender? wants more money? what exactly is the reason. cause i dont know why in the world jets would trade their best player and cornerstone of defense.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mozwanted wrote:
quick question

Why are jets moving revis?

Did he ask for trade? wants to play for a contender? wants more money? what exactly is the reason. cause i dont know why in the world jets would trade their best player and cornerstone of defense.


honestly no one knows what the hell is going on and thats just how it should be
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mozwanted wrote:
quick question

Why are jets moving revis?

Did he ask for trade? wants to play for a contender? wants more money? what exactly is the reason. cause i dont know why in the world jets would trade their best player and cornerstone of defense.


He wants more money is the short of it. Reportedly wants something like 15 million a year with some crazy high percentage guaranteed.

Couple that with the current cap issues the team has, as well as the way the DBs behind Revis played in his absence and the fact the the team is in a rebuiling mode, trading Revis could bring in a nice haul of picks to fix that

Id rather we keep him and move Cro or Wilson, but i certainly see tthe merit in trying to see what can be acquired for him
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Technically yes... BUT by laws of playoff football, The Andrew Lucks lost to the Quarterbackbowl 47 winning Joe Flaccos. Whereas the Russel Wilsons lost to the Matt Ryans, who didnt even beat the Colin Kaepernicks.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingOfTheHill84 wrote:
rampantjet wrote:
Saw someone posted this on another Jets site thought it was interesting and it kind of explains my thinking on being ok with trading Revis even though he is a great player.

Highest-paid non-quarterbacks, according to yearly average
Player Team Average pay per year
1) Calvin Johnson, WR Lions $16.2 million
2) Larry Fitzgerald, WR Cardinals $16.14 million
3) Mario Williams, DE Bills $16 million
4) Adrian Peterson, RB Vikings $14.38 million
5) Julius Peppers, DE Bears $14 million
6) Chris Johnson, RB Titans $13.49 million
7) DeMarcus Ware, DE/OLB Cowboys $13 million
Cool Jason Peters, OT Eagles $12.86 million
9) Charles Johnson, DE Panthers $12.67 million
10) Ndamukong Suh, DT Lions $12.6 million
11) Jared Allen, DE Vikings $12.21 million
12) Haloti Ngata, DT Ravens $12.2 million
13) Trent Cole, DE/OLB Eagles $12.13 million
14) Chris Long, DE Rams $12.05 million
15) Mike Wallace, WR Dolphins $12 million

Not a lot of great teams there. It isn't a nail in the coffin of not signing Revis to a lot of money, but it is certainly at least small evidence that other teams spending tons of money on non QB's has hindered their ability to build a team around said player.

Now i will concede that I wouldn't put all of these guys in Revis' class, but i would say 5-6 of them could be argued that they are around his level.


Megatron, AP, Ngata and Ware

but this is telling, however the difference is Revis is better than them all and the gap between the #1 player at their position and the #2 player is not was wide

Calvin Johnson and AJ Green aren't that far apart
Adrian Peterson and Arian Foster are far apart but not too far
Haloti Ngata and JJ Watt are neck and neck
Demarcus Ware and Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Clay Matthews and JPP are all top notch pass rushers
Darrelle Revis is far and away more dominant than Charles Tillman, Richard Sherman and Ladarius Webb

however 13M should be our max we pay him

Watt and Ngata are not neck and neck. Watt is better by a large margin.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mozwanted wrote:
quick question

Why are jets moving revis?

Did he ask for trade? wants to play for a contender? wants more money? what exactly is the reason. cause i dont know why in the world jets would trade their best player and cornerstone of defense.
Few reasons:
1) We can't franchise him next year bc of the details in his contract
2) Idzik doesn't want to pay him as much as he'll want
3) We don't know if he'll be the same revis when he comes back
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
KingOfTheHill84 wrote:
rampantjet wrote:
Saw someone posted this on another Jets site thought it was interesting and it kind of explains my thinking on being ok with trading Revis even though he is a great player.

Highest-paid non-quarterbacks, according to yearly average
Player Team Average pay per year
1) Calvin Johnson, WR Lions $16.2 million
2) Larry Fitzgerald, WR Cardinals $16.14 million
3) Mario Williams, DE Bills $16 million
4) Adrian Peterson, RB Vikings $14.38 million
5) Julius Peppers, DE Bears $14 million
6) Chris Johnson, RB Titans $13.49 million
7) DeMarcus Ware, DE/OLB Cowboys $13 million
Cool Jason Peters, OT Eagles $12.86 million
9) Charles Johnson, DE Panthers $12.67 million
10) Ndamukong Suh, DT Lions $12.6 million
11) Jared Allen, DE Vikings $12.21 million
12) Haloti Ngata, DT Ravens $12.2 million
13) Trent Cole, DE/OLB Eagles $12.13 million
14) Chris Long, DE Rams $12.05 million
15) Mike Wallace, WR Dolphins $12 million

Not a lot of great teams there. It isn't a nail in the coffin of not signing Revis to a lot of money, but it is certainly at least small evidence that other teams spending tons of money on non QB's has hindered their ability to build a team around said player.

Now i will concede that I wouldn't put all of these guys in Revis' class, but i would say 5-6 of them could be argued that they are around his level.


Megatron, AP, Ngata and Ware

but this is telling, however the difference is Revis is better than them all and the gap between the #1 player at their position and the #2 player is not was wide

Calvin Johnson and AJ Green aren't that far apart
Adrian Peterson and Arian Foster are far apart but not too far
Haloti Ngata and JJ Watt are neck and neck
Demarcus Ware and Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Clay Matthews and JPP are all top notch pass rushers
Darrelle Revis is far and away more dominant than Charles Tillman, Richard Sherman and Ladarius Webb

however 13M should be our max we pay him

Watt and Ngata are not neck and neck. Watt is better by a large margin.


they're close their margin is not that far apart
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingOfTheHill84 wrote:
green24 wrote:
KingOfTheHill84 wrote:
rampantjet wrote:
Saw someone posted this on another Jets site thought it was interesting and it kind of explains my thinking on being ok with trading Revis even though he is a great player.

Highest-paid non-quarterbacks, according to yearly average
Player Team Average pay per year
1) Calvin Johnson, WR Lions $16.2 million
2) Larry Fitzgerald, WR Cardinals $16.14 million
3) Mario Williams, DE Bills $16 million
4) Adrian Peterson, RB Vikings $14.38 million
5) Julius Peppers, DE Bears $14 million
6) Chris Johnson, RB Titans $13.49 million
7) DeMarcus Ware, DE/OLB Cowboys $13 million
Cool Jason Peters, OT Eagles $12.86 million
9) Charles Johnson, DE Panthers $12.67 million
10) Ndamukong Suh, DT Lions $12.6 million
11) Jared Allen, DE Vikings $12.21 million
12) Haloti Ngata, DT Ravens $12.2 million
13) Trent Cole, DE/OLB Eagles $12.13 million
14) Chris Long, DE Rams $12.05 million
15) Mike Wallace, WR Dolphins $12 million

Not a lot of great teams there. It isn't a nail in the coffin of not signing Revis to a lot of money, but it is certainly at least small evidence that other teams spending tons of money on non QB's has hindered their ability to build a team around said player.

Now i will concede that I wouldn't put all of these guys in Revis' class, but i would say 5-6 of them could be argued that they are around his level.


Megatron, AP, Ngata and Ware

but this is telling, however the difference is Revis is better than them all and the gap between the #1 player at their position and the #2 player is not was wide

Calvin Johnson and AJ Green aren't that far apart
Adrian Peterson and Arian Foster are far apart but not too far
Haloti Ngata and JJ Watt are neck and neck
Demarcus Ware and Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Clay Matthews and JPP are all top notch pass rushers
Darrelle Revis is far and away more dominant than Charles Tillman, Richard Sherman and Ladarius Webb

however 13M should be our max we pay him

Watt and Ngata are not neck and neck. Watt is better by a large margin.


they're close their margin is not that far apart

Ngata can't stay healthy. I would take Watt over him without any hesitation. Ngata is much closer to Wilkerson than he is to Watt.
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I would throw Larry Fitz on that list too, it isn't his fault that I might as well have been his QB last year.
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