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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kellerman wrote:
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wcblack34 wrote:
You guys aren't combining your stats with sideline photographs. THAT'S the problem.
I'd ask that to argue in this thread, you have to include a picture of either Ponder's wife or his ex. that whole comeback thing bored me to tears.


Tom Brady has not won a Superbowl since marrying a blonde. I say we petition Ponder for a divorce. Mad

Flacco's wife is blonde.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpmwr19 wrote:
Kellerman wrote:
Purple Faithful wrote:
wcblack34 wrote:
You guys aren't combining your stats with sideline photographs. THAT'S the problem.
I'd ask that to argue in this thread, you have to include a picture of either Ponder's wife or his ex. that whole comeback thing bored me to tears.


Tom Brady has not won a Superbowl since marrying a blonde. I say we petition Ponder for a divorce. Mad

Flacco's wife is blonde.


Someone married Flacco? Willingly?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wcblack34 wrote:
rpmwr19 wrote:
Kellerman wrote:
Purple Faithful wrote:
wcblack34 wrote:
You guys aren't combining your stats with sideline photographs. THAT'S the problem.
I'd ask that to argue in this thread, you have to include a picture of either Ponder's wife or his ex. that whole comeback thing bored me to tears.


Tom Brady has not won a Superbowl since marrying a blonde. I say we petition Ponder for a divorce. Mad

Flacco's wife is blonde.


Someone married Flacco? Willingly?



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really hope and think Ponder will do well this year...and then hopefully this stupid debate about him can stop. He showed what he is capable of at the end of the year with NO WR's. Let this year do the talking.


http://sadviolin.com/

Perhaps some Kleenex for you, as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MN seems to be setting this up to be Ponder's make or break year, as they should.

If he can't consistently get he ball downfield with Jennings and (hopefully) a 1st/2nd round WR, cya.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MN seems to be setting this up to be Ponder's make or break year, as they should.

If he can't consistently get he ball downfield with Jennings and (hopefully) a 1st/2nd round WR, cya.


Absolutely.

Also, great sig! (Although Percy... sigh...)
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PurpleMugen wrote:
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MN seems to be setting this up to be Ponder's make or break year, as they should.

If he can't consistently get he ball downfield with Jennings and (hopefully) a 1st/2nd round WR, cya.


Absolutely.

Also, great sig! (Although Percy... sigh...)


Maybe I can photoshop Jennings in there Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did our argument about quarterback's wives include no photos? I am disappoint.
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Blond doesn't seem to matter, according to my research.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nzd07 wrote:
PurpleMugen wrote:
Nzd07 wrote:
MN seems to be setting this up to be Ponder's make or break year, as they should.

If he can't consistently get he ball downfield with Jennings and (hopefully) a 1st/2nd round WR, cya.


Absolutely.

Also, great sig! (Although Percy... sigh...)


Maybe I can photoshop Jennings in there Laughing


Nah, leave it, man. Good memories to hang on to. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blond doesn't seem to matter, according to my research.


She's not a natural blonde. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PurpleMugen wrote:
vikesnewcoach11 wrote:
I really hope and think Ponder will do well this year...and then hopefully this stupid debate about him can stop. He showed what he is capable of at the end of the year with NO WR's. Let this year do the talking.


http://sadviolin.com/

Perhaps some Kleenex for you, as well.


Man you always have to come in throwing jabs dont you? No need for kleenex, just saying Im not worried about Ponder this year and you just love to carry this argument on. You're the one complaining about our QB situation so maybe you're the one that needs to invest in some Kleenex Boo hoo!

....or like I said, let this year do the talking and you can quit your bashing and complaining. Simple as that.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny Mercer might have some faith in Ponder at this point.

It's debatable whether or not Ponder has accentuated the positive.

But it looks like he's eliminating the negative....

QB Christian Ponder - Selected Season Stats 2011&12

Stat or ratio --- '11 --- '12 --- % chg

Games Start --- 10 --- 16
Pass Attmpts -- 291 -- 483
Completions -- 158 -- 300

TDs ------------ 13 --- 18
INTs ----------- 13 --- 12
Sacked -------- 30 --- 32

Att/GS --------- 29 --- 30
Sacks/GS ------- 3 ---- 2 ------- -33%
INT/GS ------- 1.3 --- .75 ----- -42%

Sacks/Att ---- 10.3% -- 6.6% --- -36%
INT/Att ------- 4.5% --- 2.5% ---- -44%
TD/Att -------- 4.5% --- 3.7% ---- -17%

Completion% --- 54.3% -- 62.1% ----- +14%

QB Rating ------- 70.1 ---- 81.2 ------- +16%

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/Johnny-mercer/accentuate-the-positive.html

Discuss.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purplexing wrote:
Discuss.

throwing a lot of short passes will do that to a guy's stats, i imagine.

i think an analysis like that would have to somehow look at passes attempted and put them in groups of from 1-10 yards, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, etc....

if he's made those kinds of gains in all yardage situations, we'd have something to see as growth. if it's more in the 1-10 yard range and that's skewing the overall grading, then not so much.

but i don't know if that's the case.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That, in my opinion, is much more important in the maturation of a QB than an increase in 250+ yard passing games. Throwing one less interception despite having almost 200 more attempts is an encouraging sign. Yes, he was helped some by throwing short passes to Percy Harvin. However, he threw fewer INT's per game with Harvin on the sideline than he did with him in the game; despite having a decently close average attempts/game.

This year he needs to eliminate the high/low streakiness and really iron out his footwork. He's shown he can be an effective QB, with a better than advertised arm, when he steps into his throws.

Critical year for Christian, and, from the sound of what he's doing this offseason, he knows it.
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