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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ansah is a 3-4 DE. I'd be OK with him in a trade back. Hes got a frame to add a lot of strength to go with his speed and burst but he has little agility, never rushes around OL, and is more comfortable lining up inside. Utah ran a lot of 3 man fronts and he would line up as the NT or DE more often than as a blitzing LB.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ansah is a 3-4 DE. I'd be OK with him in a trade back. Hes got a frame to add a lot of strength to go with his speed and burst but he has little agility, never rushes around OL, and is more comfortable lining up inside. Utah ran a lot of 3 man fronts and he would line up as the NT or DE more often than as a blitzing LB.


How is Annsah a 34 DE when his position was a 34 OLB at BYU?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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roger murdock wrote:
Ansah is a 3-4 DE. I'd be OK with him in a trade back. Hes got a frame to add a lot of strength to go with his speed and burst but he has little agility, never rushes around OL, and is more comfortable lining up inside. Utah ran a lot of 3 man fronts and he would line up as the NT or DE more often than as a blitzing LB.


How is Annsah a 34 DE when his position was a 34 OLB at BYU?


Ansah played everywhere on the Dline as well, he played a good amount of Nose and DE
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: DS's precombine mock Reply with quote

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On ansah. How can a guy that played 34 OLB not be a fit as a 34 OLB?


B/c he played DE and DT.

He'd be a 5 tech in the 34. At 6, he is a huge reach.

Right now, My list at 6 is Star, Moore, Milliner, or Vaccaro.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: DS's precombine mock Reply with quote

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DawgSoldier wrote:
On ansah. How can a guy that played 34 OLB not be a fit as a 34 OLB?


B/c he played DE and DT.

He'd be a 5 tech in the 34. At 6, he is a huge reach.

Right now, My list at 6 is Star, Moore, Milliner, or Vaccaro.


I guess we will see how he does in the LB drills
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: DS's precombine mock Reply with quote

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bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
On ansah. How can a guy that played 34 OLB not be a fit as a 34 OLB?


B/c he played DE and DT.

He'd be a 5 tech in the 34. At 6, he is a huge reach.

Right now, My list at 6 is Star, Moore, Milliner, or Vaccaro.


I guess we will see how he does in the LB drills


for the NFL I view him as a 43DE and possible DT as well...

hopefully he will prove me wrong. Another 34OLB prospect is not a bad thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: DS's precombine mock Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
On ansah. How can a guy that played 34 OLB not be a fit as a 34 OLB?


B/c he played DE and DT.

He'd be a 5 tech in the 34. At 6, he is a huge reach.



This. Check out this video and count where he lines up, I did the first 14 plays and then stopped because the point was made. In the first 14 snaps he lines up at end 10 times, NT 2 times, DT in a 43 linemen formation once, and as a stand up LB one time.

Also pay attention to how often he goes to the outside when passrushing - almost never.

34 DE: 1,2,6,7,9,10,11,12,13,14

34 NT: 3,4

43 DT: 5,

34 LB: 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-JxQlaxBHU
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also don't understand why saying hes a 3-4 DE is a knock. I think he can be a good one if he puts on some more strength.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roger murdock wrote:
I also don't understand why saying hes a 3-4 DE is a knock. I think he can be a good one if he puts on some more strength.
well it's a knock when your trying to mock a 34 OLB at 6. If he doesn't test well in LB drills at the combine. I won't mock him as a 34 OLB.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: DS's precombine mock Reply with quote

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Free Agency

Ramses Barden | Wide Receiver
Team: New York Giants
Age / DOB: (27) / 1/1/1986
Ht / Wt: 6'6' / 224
College: Cal Poly
DS Comment: Think Joe Jurevicius and you'll see where I am going with this.

Fred Davis | Tight End
Team: Washington Redskins
Age / DOB: (27) / 1/15/1986
Ht / Wt: 6'4' / 258
College: USC
DS Comment: Another pass catching TE with size for Chud and Norv.

Louis Vasquez | Guard
Team: San Diego Chargers
Age / DOB: (25) / 4/11/1987
Ht / Wt: 6'5' / 335
College: Texas Tech
DS Comment: Louis follows Norv to C-town

Keenan Lewis | Corner Back
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Age / DOB: (26) / 5/17/1986
Ht / Wt: 6'0' / 208
College: Oregon State
DS Comment: You hurt a rival and shore up a position. Win Win.

Pat Chung | Free Safety
Team: New England Patriots
Age / DOB: (25) / 8/19/1987
Ht / Wt: 5'11' / 212
College: Oregon
DS Comment: Let the quack attack in the back begin. Chung and Ward are reunited.

DRAFT
1 Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 274. Arm: 34 5/8. Hand: 10.
Projected 40 Time: 4.66.
DS Comment: Ansah is now the primary pass rusher in the Browns 34 and other scheme's

3 William Gholston*, DE, Michigan State
Height: 6-7. Weight: 285.
Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
DS Comment: Think Calias Campbell and you see where why Horton wants an athletic 1 gap 34 DE

4 Dion Sims*, TE, Michigan State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 285.
Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
DS Comment: Great Blocking TE

5 Quanterus Smith, DE/OLB, Western Kentucky
Height: 6-5. Weight: 255.
Projected 40 Time: 4.66.
DS Comment: Depth at pass rusher

6 Kyle Juszcyk, FB, Harvard
Height: 6-1. Weight: 248. Arm: 31 3/8. Hand: 9.
Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
DS Comment: Loval kid that wowed at the senior bowl. Played TE at Harvard and has soft hands.

7 Caleb Sturgis, K, Florida
Height: 5-11. Weight: 184.
DS Comment: Don't see Dawson staying so I drafted the top kicker.


Doesn't look so bad post combine now does it. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

too be honest the only pick I would like would be Ansah
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
too be honest the only pick I would like would be Ansah


what about the position slotting?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gholsten for whatever reason does not play up to his potential, and Sims injury/ charachter history kinda are off putting, I feel we could find a better TE in the 3rd, and possibly a better 3-4 end than gholsten in the 4th
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