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GeneralDissaray


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Add a 2nd or 3rd in 2014 to NE. BB doesn't trade out of the 1st unless you over pay him. That's why they seen to almost always have 2 1st round picks. Cyprien in the 2nd seems a little high, and I hope they go OL and DL in the 1st 2 rounds.


How many times has he come into a draft with only 5 picks. He's not getting a 1st round pick for moving down 6 spots. I've seen Cyprien being mocked in the late 1, so I don't think mid 2 is too high.
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buckwild wrote:
Add a 2nd or 3rd in 2014 to NE. BB doesn't trade out of the 1st unless you over pay him. That's why they seen to almost always have 2 1st round picks. Cyprien in the 2nd seems a little high, and I hope they go OL and DL in the 1st 2 rounds.


How many times has he come into a draft with only 5 picks. He's not getting a 1st round pick for moving down 6 spots. I've seen Cyprien being mocked in the late 1, so I don't think mid 2 is too high.


By who? Joe Blow on I'm a draft expert.com.

Cyprien is 3rd best safety in this draft.
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As long as it doesn't pan out to be Felix Jones/Mike Jenkins all over again I'm in. Gotta get guys who will have the same passion after the money comes.
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buckwild wrote:
GeneralDissaray wrote:
buckwild wrote:
Add a 2nd or 3rd in 2014 to NE. BB doesn't trade out of the 1st unless you over pay him. That's why they seen to almost always have 2 1st round picks. Cyprien in the 2nd seems a little high, and I hope they go OL and DL in the 1st 2 rounds.


How many times has he come into a draft with only 5 picks. He's not getting a 1st round pick for moving down 6 spots. I've seen Cyprien being mocked in the late 1, so I don't think mid 2 is too high.


By who? Joe Blow on I'm a draft expert.com.

Cyprien is 3rd best safety in this draft.


Awesome reply. Thanks for listing your sources.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralDissaray wrote:
By who? Joe Blow on I'm a draft expert.com.




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralDissaray wrote:
buckwild wrote:
GeneralDissaray wrote:
buckwild wrote:
Add a 2nd or 3rd in 2014 to NE. BB doesn't trade out of the 1st unless you over pay him. That's why they seen to almost always have 2 1st round picks. Cyprien in the 2nd seems a little high, and I hope they go OL and DL in the 1st 2 rounds.


How many times has he come into a draft with only 5 picks. He's not getting a 1st round pick for moving down 6 spots. I've seen Cyprien being mocked in the late 1, so I don't think mid 2 is too high.


By who? Joe Blow on I'm a draft expert.com.

Cyprien is 3rd best safety in this draft.


Awesome reply. Thanks for listing your sources.


You still haven't listed who has Cyprien in the 1st, because I respect Mayock or Brandt over an internet draft site.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering but who would trade back with us so we could pick Clowney?

No one. That's who.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buckwild wrote:
GeneralDissaray wrote:
buckwild wrote:
GeneralDissaray wrote:
buckwild wrote:
Add a 2nd or 3rd in 2014 to NE. BB doesn't trade out of the 1st unless you over pay him. That's why they seen to almost always have 2 1st round picks. Cyprien in the 2nd seems a little high, and I hope they go OL and DL in the 1st 2 rounds.


How many times has he come into a draft with only 5 picks. He's not getting a 1st round pick for moving down 6 spots. I've seen Cyprien being mocked in the late 1, so I don't think mid 2 is too high.


By who? Joe Blow on I'm a draft expert.com.

Cyprien is 3rd best safety in this draft.


Awesome reply. Thanks for listing your sources.


You still haven't listed who has Cyprien in the 1st, because I respect Mayock or Brandt over an internet draft site.


I don't personally think Cyprien is a first round prospect, but Josh Norris of NFL.com has him going to the Bengals at 21 overall.
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I'm wondering if Cooper will be there in the early 2nd. I know there is a lot of buzz about him recently, but with the way guards are valued, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him go in the back end of the 1st, or very early on in the 2nd.
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I'm wondering if Cooper will be there in the early 2nd. I know there is a lot of buzz about him recently, but with the way guards are valued, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him go in the back end of the 1st, or very early on in the 2nd.


Did you miss the post stating that some scouts value Cooper higher than Warmack. As in 2-3 years Warmack could easily turn into Leonard Davis. Not knowing if he will report to TC at 340 or 375 lbs.
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flyingmonkey30 wrote:
I'm wondering if Cooper will be there in the early 2nd. I know there is a lot of buzz about him recently, but with the way guards are valued, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him go in the back end of the 1st, or very early on in the 2nd.


Did you miss the post stating that some scouts value Cooper higher than Warmack. As in 2-3 years Warmack could easily turn into Leonard Davis. Not knowing if he will report to TC at 340 or 375 lbs.


That is why he showed up at the combine smaller than expected, right?

And thats great that some scouts value Cooper more than Warmack. The only reason that is news is because Warmack has been talked about as the consensus top guard in the draft, and it wouldn't at all surprise me if he shuts up critics by destroying the movement drills. I think that would throw him well ahead of Cooper. The depth of the position also leads me to wonder if there is a chance that someone slides. But heaven forbid I throw out some ideas.
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I'm just making a point off another thread about the scouting combine. Don't be so sensative/testy! Geez! Someone give FM30 a hug or even better a beer so he can relax.
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I'm just making a point off another thread about the scouting combine. Don't be so sensative/testy! Geez! Someone give FM30 a hug or even better a beer so he can relax.


I don't drink, but thanks
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