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khodder
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Greg. Toler.
Seriously. Arizona has three starting CB's on their roster (Peterson/Gay/Fleming) and Toler will want to play, he is not going to be guaranteed a spot in starting or even in the nickel package right now. He has the connection with Horton and Cioffi. He is a very, very good fit for what Horton wants to do (Man Heavy, Physical, Tacklers).
I can see him being one of Hortons priorities going into 2013, sign Greg Toler, start him opposite Joe Haden.
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| khodder wrote: | Greg. Toler.
Seriously. Arizona has three starting CB's on their roster (Peterson/Gay/Fleming) and Toler will want to play, he is not going to be guaranteed a spot in starting or even in the nickel package right now. He has the connection with Horton and Cioffi. He is a very, very good fit for what Horton wants to do (Man Heavy, Physical, Tacklers).
I can see him being one of Hortons priorities going into 2013, sign Greg Toler, start him opposite Joe Haden. |
hows his coverage ability?
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KamTrus20
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| khodder wrote: | Greg. Toler.
Seriously. Arizona has three starting CB's on their roster (Peterson/Gay/Fleming) and Toler will want to play, he is not going to be guaranteed a spot in starting or even in the nickel package right now. He has the connection with Horton and Cioffi. He is a very, very good fit for what Horton wants to do (Man Heavy, Physical, Tacklers).
I can see him being one of Hortons priorities going into 2013, sign Greg Toler, start him opposite Joe Haden. |
He's not good enough to start in Arizona, but he is good enough to start in Cleveland? Sorry but I hope we aim a little higher than a 28 year old never was
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| KamTrus20 wrote: | | zelbell wrote: | | Schefty said to look out for us this offseason as we pursue players like Kruger and Wallace.... |
Isn't that a direct contradiction to what our owner said a few weeks ago when he said we will not be players in FA this year? |
Didn't Haslam also talk about no drastic changes or something similar to that?
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Dawgpoun8017
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WHO CARES ABOUT WHO SAID WHAT! ASLONG AS WE IMPROVE! hell they can lie to us all day er day if we win
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khodder
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| KamTrus20 wrote: | | He's not good enough to start in Arizona, but he is good enough to start in Cleveland? Sorry but I hope we aim a little higher than a 28 year old never was |
Except that he was good enough to start in Arizona; We used 5 defensive backs a lot and Toler when he was healthy was the outside corner opposite Peterson. He had a Hamstring issue this season that limited the number of snaps he could take, and was unable to play early on in the season.
All I was refering to was the fact he is a FA and he will likely want to go somewhere where he is guaranteed a starting spot rather than coming back to Arizona where he is going to be fighting for that role with two other starting caliber players.
Believe me I would much rather have Toler in Arizona as the starter rather than elsewhere in 2013, but I have a feeling we may let him walk to roll with the younger Fleming and the already under contract Gay.
Just for reference, my metrics in 2012 had Toler at 13 catches allowed on 41 targets, 5.43 YPA, 2 INT, 1 TD (Deep ball on which he tweaked his hamstring).
If you don't want him fine, but metrically Toler was outstanding in 2012.
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| Dawgpoun8017 wrote: | | WHO CARES ABOUT WHO SAID WHAT! ASLONG AS WE IMPROVE! hell they can lie to us all day er day if we win |
not in bruces mind
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| bulldog wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | | bulldog wrote: | Offseason stuff
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DO't we get a pick from the eagles for trading that UDFA Safety?
Oh and any idea when compensatory picks will be awarded? |
We should, but until there is an official list, I was gonna leave it off. |
Browns PR man. About as official as you can get.
Compensatory picks are usually awarded during the league meetings that are scheduled to take place March 17-20. |
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The Free Agent Hot 100
1. Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace
2. Lions defensive end Cliff Avril
3. Giants wide receiver Victor Cruz (RFA)
4. Packers wide receiver Greg Jennings
5. Dolphins offensive tackle Jake Long
6. Eagles cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
7. Ravens outside linebacker Paul Kruger
8. Bengals offensive tackle Andre Smith
9. Patriots cornerback Aqib Talib
10. Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker
11. Buccaneers defensive end Michael Bennett
12. Rams wide receiver Danny Amendola
13. Vikings offensive tackle Phil Loadholt
14. Texans outside linebacker Connor Barwin
15. Patriots offensive tackle Sebastian Vollmer
16. Falcons tight end Tony Gonzalez
17. Dolphins cornerback Sean Smith
18. Titans tight end Jared Cook
19. 49ers safety Dashon Goldson
20. Dolphins wide receiver Brian Hartline
21. Giants tight end Martellus Bennett
22. Ravens cornerback Cary Williams
23. Falcons safety William Moore
24. Seahawks defensive end Jason Jones
25. Giants defensive end Osi Umemyiora
26. Bills offensive guard Andy Levitre
27. Lions cornerback Chris Houston
28. Chargers outside linebacker Shaun Phillips
29. Dolphins running back Reggie Bush
30. Rams running back Steven Jackson
31. Falcons cornerback Brent Grimes
32. Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney
33. Raiders defensive tackle Desmond Bryant
34. Seahawks defensive tackle Alan Branch
35. Ravens safety Ed Reed
36. Jets tight end Dustin Keller
37. Giants safety Kenny Phillips
38. Texans safety Glover Quin
39. Ravens linebacker Dannell Ellerbe
40. Saints offensive tackle Jermon Bushrod
41. Steelers cornerback Keenan Lewis
42. Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour
43. Ex-Falcons defensive end John Abraham
44. Jaguars cornerback Derek Cox
45. Ex-Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson
46. Falcons offensive tackle Sam Baker
47. Jets safety LaRon Landry
48. Lions safety Louis Delmas
49. Dolphins quarterback Matt Moore
50. Chargers offensive guard Louis Vasquez
51. Chargers cornerback Antoine Cason
52. Redskins tight end Fred Davis
53. Chiefs defensive end Glenn Dorsey
54. Rams defensive end William Hayes
55. Cowboys cornerback Mike Jenkins
56. Steelers running back Rashard Mendenhall
57. Chargers wide receiver Danario Alexander (RFA)
58. Lions offensive tackle Gosder Cherilus
59. Jaguars defensive tackle Terrance Knighton
60. Ravens tight end Dennis Pitta (RFA)
61. Ex-Giants defensive tackle Chris Canty
62. Panthers defensive tackle Dwan Edwards
63. Jaguars outside linebacker Daryl Smith
64. Bears middle linebacker Brian Urlacher
65. Raiders tight end Brandon Myers
66. Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis
67. 49ers tight end Delanie Walker
68. Titans defensive tackle Sen’Derrick Marks
69. Patriots cornerback Kyle Arrington
70. Ex-Eagles defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins
71. Ravens offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie
72. Lions outside linebacker Justin Durant
73. Chargers cornerback Quentin Jammer
74. Chargers outside linebacker Antwan Barnes
75. Steelers wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders (RFA)
76. Ex-Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw
77. Colts wide receiver Donnie Avery
78. Bills cornerback Leodis McKelvin
79. Bears defensive end Israel Idonije
80. Browns wide receiver Josh Cribbs
81. Bengals middle linebacker Rey Maualuga
82. Colts cornerback Darius Butler
83. Ex-Packers cornerback Charles Woodson
84. 49ers defensive tackle Ricky Jean-Francois
85. Dolphins safety Chris Clemons
86. Titans placekicker Rob Bironas
87. Bengals punter Kevin Huber
88. Patriots safety Patrick Chung
89. Ex-Bills inside linebacker Nick Barnett
90. Raiders defensive end Matt Shaughnessy
91. Panthers cornerback Captain Munnerlyn
92. Raiders punter Shane Lechler
93. Jets running back Shonn Greene
94. Lions defensive end Lawrence Jackson
95. Colts cornerback Jerraud Powers
96. Bengals defensive end Wallace Gilberry
97. Jets offensive guard Brandon Moore
98. Ravens defensive lineman Arthur Jones (RFA)
99. Cowboys outside linebacker Victor Butler
100. Colts quarterback Drew Stanton web page
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The Free Agent Hot 100
1. Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace -- Signed with Miami
2. Lions defensive end Cliff Avril -- Signed with Seattle
3. Giants wide receiver Victor Cruz (RFA) -- (1st Rd Tender)
4. Packers wide receiver Greg Jennings
5. Dolphins offensive tackle Jake Long
6. Eagles cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie -- Signed with Denver
7. Ravens outside linebacker Paul Kruger -- Signed with Cleveland
8. Bengals offensive tackle Andre Smith
9. Patriots cornerback Aqib Talib
10. Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker -- Signed with Denver
11. Buccaneers defensive end Michael Bennett
12. Rams wide receiver Danny Amendola -- Signed with New England
13. Vikings offensive tackle Phil Loadholt -- Re-Signed with Minnesota
14. Texans outside linebacker Connor Barwin
15. Patriots offensive tackle Sebastian Vollmer
16. Falcons tight end Tony Gonzalez -- Will return with Atlanta
17. Dolphins cornerback Sean Smith -- Signed with Kansas City
18. Titans tight end Jared Cook -- Signed with St. Louis
19. 49ers safety Dashon Goldson -- Signed with Tampa Bay
20. Dolphins wide receiver Brian Hartline -- Re-Signed with Miami
21. Giants tight end Martellus Bennett -- Signed with Chicago
22. Ravens cornerback Cary Williams
23. Falcons safety William Moore -- Re-Signed with Atlanta
24. Seahawks defensive end Jason Jones -- Signed with Detroit
25. Giants defensive end Osi Umemyiora
26. Bills offensive guard Andy Levitre -- Signed with Tennessee
27. Lions cornerback Chris Houston -- Signed with Detroit
28. Chargers outside linebacker Shaun Phillips
29. Dolphins running back Reggie Bush -- Signed with Detroit
30. Rams running back Steven Jackson
31. Falcons cornerback Brent Grimes
32. Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney
33. Raiders defensive tackle Desmond Bryant -- Signed with Cleveland
34. Seahawks defensive tackle Alan Branch
35. Ravens safety Ed Reed
36. Jets tight end Dustin Keller
37. Giants safety Kenny Phillips
38. Texans safety Glover Quin -- Signed with Detroit
39. Ravens linebacker Dannell Ellerbe -- Signed with Miami
40. Saints offensive tackle Jermon Bushrod -- Signed with Chicago
41. Steelers cornerback Keenan Lewis
42. Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour
43. Ex-Falcons defensive end John Abraham
44. Jaguars cornerback Derek Cox -- Signed with San Diego
45. Ex-Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson -- Signed with Kansas City
46. Falcons offensive tackle Sam Baker -- Re-Signed with Atlanta
47. Jets safety LaRon Landry -- Signed with Indianapolis
48. Lions safety Louis Delmas
49. Dolphins quarterback Matt Moore -- Re-signed with Miami
50. Chargers offensive guard Louis Vasquez -- Signed with denver
51. Chargers cornerback Antoine Cason
52. Redskins tight end Fred Davis
53. Chiefs defensive end Glenn Dorsey -- Signed with San Francisco
54. Rams defensive end William Hayes -- -- Signed with St. Louis
55. Cowboys cornerback Mike Jenkins
56. Steelers running back Rashard Mendenhall -- Signed with Arizona
57. Chargers wide receiver Danario Alexander (RFA) Late round tender
58. Lions offensive tackle Gosder Cherilus -- Signed with Indianapolis
59. Jaguars defensive tackle Terrance Knighton -- Signed with Denver
60. Ravens tight end Dennis Pitta (RFA) (2nd rd Tender)
61. Ex-Giants defensive tackle Chris Canty -- Signed with Baltimore
62. Panthers defensive tackle Dwan Edwards
63. Jaguars outside linebacker Daryl Smith
64. Bears middle linebacker Brian Urlacher
65. Raiders tight end Brandon Myers
66. Saints defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis
67. 49ers tight end Delanie Walker -- Signed with Tennessee
68. Titans defensive tackle Sen’Derrick Marks
69. Patriots cornerback Kyle Arrington
70. Ex-Eagles defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins -- Signed with New York Giants
71. Ravens offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie
72. Lions outside linebacker Justin Durant -- Signed with Detroit
73. Chargers cornerback Quentin Jammer
74. Chargers outside linebacker Antwan Barnes
75. Steelers wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders (RFA) 3rd round tender
76. Ex-Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw
77. Colts wide receiver Donnie Avery -- Signed with Kansas City
78. Bills cornerback Leodis McKelvin -- Re-Signed with Buffalo
79. Bears defensive end Israel Idonije
80. Browns wide receiver Josh Cribbs
81. Bengals middle linebacker Rey Maualuga
82. Colts cornerback Darius Butler -- re-signed with Indianapolis
83. Ex-Packers cornerback Charles Woodson
84. 49ers defensive tackle Ricky Jean-Francois --
85. Dolphins safety Chris Clemons -- Re-signed with Miami
86. Titans placekicker Rob Bironas
87. Bengals punter Kevin Huber -- re-signed with Cincinnati
88. Patriots safety Patrick Chung -- Signed with Philadelphia
89. Ex-Bills inside linebacker Nick Barnett
90. Raiders defensive end Matt Shaughnessy
91. Panthers cornerback Captain Munnerlyn
92. Raiders punter Shane Lechler
93. Jets running back Shonn Greene -- Signed with Tennessee
94. Lions defensive end Lawrence Jackson
95. Colts cornerback Jerraud Powers -- Signed with Arizona
96. Bengals defensive end Wallace Gilberry -- Re-signed with Cincinnati
97. Jets offensive guard Brandon Moore
98. Ravens defensive lineman Arthur Jones (RFA) 2nd round tender
99. Cowboys outside linebacker Victor Butler
100. Colts quarterback Drew Stanton -- Signed with Arizona
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Phil Dawson doesn't make the list??
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CURRENT BROWNS QB'S
BRANDON WEEDEN
COLT MCCOY
THAD LEWIS
2013 NFL QB FA LIST Per Walterfootball.com (Updated 3/13)
Joe Flacco, QB, Ravens. Age: 28. Re-signed with Ravens (6 years, $120.6 million)
Matt Moore, QB, Dolphins. Age: 29. Re-signed with Dolphins (2 years, $8 million)
Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB, Bills. Age: 30.
Jason Campbell, QB, Bears. Age: 31.
Matt Cassell, QB, Kansas City
Brian Hoyer, QB, Cardinals. Age: 27. -- Tendered by Cardinals (2nd round)
David Garrard, QB, None. Age: 35. -- Signed with Jets
Dennis Dixon, QB, Ravens. Age: 28. -- Signed with Eagles (2 years)
Tarvaris Jackson, QB, Bills. Age: 30. -- Re-signed with Bills
Charlie Batch, QB, Steelers. Age: 38.
Rex Grossman, QB, Redskins. Age: 33.
Byron Leftwich, QB, Steelers. Age: 33.
Chase Daniel, QB, Saints. Age: 26. -- Signed with Chiefs
Drew Stanton, QB, Colts. Age: 29. -- Signed with Cardinals (3 years)
Brady Quinn, QB, Chiefs. Age: 28.
Derek Anderson, QB, Panthers. Age: 30. -- Re-signed with Panthers (1 year)
Matt Leinart, QB, Raiders. Age: 30.
David Carr, QB, Giants. Age: 34.
Kellen Clemens, QB, Rams. Age: 30.
Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Bengals. Age: 30. -- Signed with Steelers (3 years)
Josh McCown, QB, Bears. Age: 34.
Tyler Thigpen, QB, Bills. Age: 29.
Luke McCown, QB, Falcons. Age: 32.
JaMarcus Russell, QB/OT, Raiders. Age: 28.
Jordan Palmer, QB, Jaguars. Age: 29.
John Parker Wilson, QB, Jaguars. Age: 27. -- Claimed by Steelers
Caleb Hanie, QB, Broncos. Age: 27.
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CURRENT BROWNS RB'S
TRENT RICHARDSON
MONTARIO HARDESTY
CHRIS OGBONNAYA
2013 NFL FA LIST RUNNING BACKS (Updated 3/13) Per Walter Football.com
Steven Jackson, RB, Rams. Age: 30.
Reggie Bush, RB, Dolphins. Age: 28. Signed with Lions
Ahmad Bradshaw, RB, Giants. Age: 27.
Chris Ivory (RFA), RB, Saints. Age: 25. Tendered by Saints (2nd round)
Jonathan Dwyer (RFA), RB, Steelers. Age: 24.
Re-signed with Steelers (1 year, $1.3 million)
Leon Washington, KR, Seahawks. Age: 31.
Darius Reynaud, KR, Titans. Age: 28.
Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Steelers. Age: 26. Signed with Cardinals (1 year)
Chris Wells, RB, Cardinals. Age: 25.
Shonn Greene, RB, Jets. Age: 28. Signed with Titans (3 years, $10 million)
Cedric Benson, RB, Packers. Age: 30.
Joique Bell (RFA), RB, Lions. Age: 27.
Danny Woodhead, RB, Patriots. Age: 28.
Jalen Parmele, RB, Jaguars. Age: 26.
Isaac Redman, RB, Steelers. Age: 28.
Tendered by Steelers (original)
Peyton Hillis, RB, Chiefs. Age: 27.
Kevin Smith, RB, Lions. Age: 26.
La'Rod Stephens-Howling, RB/KR, Cardinals. Age: 26.
Michael Turner, RB, Falcons. Age: 31.
Mike Goodson, RB, Raiders. Age: 26.
Felix Jones, RB, Cowboys. Age: 26.
Cedric Peerman (RFA), RB, Bengals. Age: 26. -- Re-signed with Bengals
LeGarrette Blount (RFA), RB, Buccaneers. Age: 26. -- Re-signed with Buccaneers (1 year, $1.75 million)
Justin Forsett, RB, Texans. Age: 27.
Rashad Jennings, RB, Jaguars. Age: 28.
Ryan Grant, RB, Packers. Age: 30.
Ronnie Brown, RB, Chargers. Age: 31.
Javon Ringer, RB, Titans. Age: 26.
Chis Ogbonnaya (RFA), RB, Browns. Age: 27. -- Re-signed with Browns (2 years)
Tashard Choice, RB, Bills. Age: 28.
Lance Ball (RFA), RB, Broncos. Age: 28. -- Tendered by Broncos
Bernard Scott, RB, Bengals. Age: 29.
Mewelde Moore, RB, Colts. Age: 31.
Kahlil Bell, RB, Bears. Age: 26.
Curtis Brinkley (RFA), RB, Chargers. Age: 27.
Brandon Jackson, RB, Browns. Age: 27.
Ryan Torain, RB, Giants. Age: 27. -- Re-signed with Giants
Jackie Battle, RB, Chargers. Age: 29.
Antone Smith (RFA), RB, Falcons. Age: 27. -- Re-signed with Falcons (2 years)
Stefan Logan, RB/KR, Lions. Age: 32.
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CURRENT BROWNS FULLBACKS
OWEN MERECIC
2013 NFL FA LIST FULL BACKS Per Walter Football.com (Updated 3/13)
Jerome Felton, FB, Vikings. Age: 27. Re-signed with Vikings (3 years, $7.5 million)
Darrel Young (RFA), FB, Redskins. Age: 26. Re-signed with Redskins (3 years)
Greg Jones, FB, Jaguars. Age: 32.
David Johnson, FB, Steelers. Age: 26.
Re-signed with Steelers (1 year)
James Casey, FB/TE, Texans. Age: 28. Signed with Eagles
Mike Cox, FB, Falcons. Age: 28.
Brian Leonard, FB, Bengals. Age: 29.
Corey McIntyre, FB, Bills. Age: 34.
Alex Smith, FB/TE, Browns. Age: 31.
Lex Hilliard, FB, Jets. Age: 29. -- Re-signed with Jets (1 year)
Quinn Johnson, FB, Titans. Age: 26. -- Re-signed with Titans
Chris Gronkowski (RFA), FB, Broncos. Age: 26.
Brock Bolen (RFA), FB, Jaguars. Age: 28.
Spencer Larsen, FB, Patriots. Age: 29.
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