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cochise


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Pats full offseason Reply with quote

Lets start the offseason with a current list of Pats under contract:

Player Cap (in millions)
Tom Brady $21.8
Vince Wilfork $10.6
Logan Mankins $10
Jerod Mayo $5.6
Brandon Lloyd $4.5
Aaron Hernandez $4
Stephen Gostkowski $3.4
Dan Connolly $3.3
Rob Gronkowski $2.7
Nate Solder $2.3
Matthew Slater $2.3
Steve Gregory $2.2
Rob Ninkovich $2.2
Chandler Jones $1.9
Devin McCourty $1.8
Donta Hightower $1.8
Daniel Fells $1.7
Ras I. Dowling $1.4
Zolton Mesko $1.4
Kyle Love $1.1
Ryan Wendell $1
Jermaine Cunning $1
Tavon Wilson $1
Shane Vereen $1
Spencer Larsen $.9
Brandon Spikes $.9
Stevan Ridley $.8
Ryan Mallett $.8
Brandon Deaderick $.6
Marcus Cannon $.6
Rest of Roster $12 (24 players)

Total $106.5 (54 players)

Projected NFL salary cap $121.5 million. Cap space $15 million.

Cuts Cap savings

Fells $1
Larsen $.8
Deaderick $.6

I could almost see cutting Gostkowski for a savings of $2 million if we had a 4th or 5th round pick to select a big college kicker. Since we dont, Gostkowski holds on for another year.

Total Cap space to spend $17.4

Resign

Julian Edleman $1.5 million
Kyle Arrington $2 million
Danny Woodhead $1.5
Sebastian Vollmer $6.5 million

Free Agency

Kevin Ogletree $1.5 million
Derek Cox $2.5 million

DRAFT

Trade 2nd round pick to Minnesota for Percy Harvin ($2.9 million)

Based on my calculations, thus far the Pats would be $1 over the cap with (after trading their 2nd) about $2.5 still needed for draft picks. Obviously some small restructuring of existing contracts would have to take place.

1-29 Kawann Short DT - Purdue

Pats need a penetrating DT next to Wilfork to fill out the rotation with Love and Armstead.

3-91 Jonathon Cyprien S - FIU

We dont know what we have in Tavon Wilson yet. Cyprien is at least competition for him and if not we at least replace Chung.

I dont go deep enough in the draft to project 7th round picks.

Final Roster
QB Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett, Mike Kafka
RB Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, Bolden, Demps
WR Lloyd, Harvin, Edelman, Slater, Ogletree
TE Gronkowski, Hernandez, Ballard
OL Wendell, Connolly, Mankins, Solder, Vollmer, Cannon, McDonald, Zusevics

DE Jones, Ninkovich, Cunningham, Francis, Bequette
DT Wilfork, Love, Armstead, Short (R)
ILB Spikes, Fletcher
OLB Mayo, Hightower, Rivera, Tarpinian
CB Dennard, Dowling, Arrington
Safety McCourty, Gregory, Wilson, Cyprien (R), Ebner

Specials Gostkowski, Mesko, Aiken

The hole is at CB. It might mean we have to take a CB such as Jonathan Banks or Desmond Trufant in the first round and keep Deaderick or Marcus Forston as our 4th DT.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the Pats are going for a new passing yards allowed record?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sciz wrote:
So the Pats are going for a new passing yards allowed record?


The only subtraction from the defense is Talib. The additions are Derek Cox, Kawann Short, Ras I. Dowling, and Jon Cyprien. That equates to worst defense in league?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cochise wrote:
Sciz wrote:
So the Pats are going for a new passing yards allowed record?


The only subtraction from the defense is Talib. The additions are Derek Cox, Kawann Short, Ras I. Dowling, and Jon Cyprien. That equates to worst defense in league?
If Cox is the solution to the Pats' passing woes, then he's going to cost way more than $2.5M. And you don't really have a backup plan for when he gets hurt, which has happened each of the past three seasons.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think the Pats have enough cap space to buy a solution to their secondary. I think the real solution is improvement by Jones and Hightower, a push up the middle by Kawann Short, and a healthy year out of Dowling. Not a ton of cap space and few draft picks. Its gonna take some creativity.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sciz wrote:
cochise wrote:
Sciz wrote:
So the Pats are going for a new passing yards allowed record?


The only subtraction from the defense is Talib. The additions are Derek Cox, Kawann Short, Ras I. Dowling, and Jon Cyprien. That equates to worst defense in league?
If Cox is the solution to the Pats' passing woes, then he's going to cost way more than $2.5M. And you don't really have a backup plan for when he gets hurt, which has happened each of the past three seasons.


I'd think Cox would command an equal salary to Talib on the open market.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

24isthelaw wrote:
Sciz wrote:
cochise wrote:
Sciz wrote:
So the Pats are going for a new passing yards allowed record?


The only subtraction from the defense is Talib. The additions are Derek Cox, Kawann Short, Ras I. Dowling, and Jon Cyprien. That equates to worst defense in league?
If Cox is the solution to the Pats' passing woes, then he's going to cost way more than $2.5M. And you don't really have a backup plan for when he gets hurt, which has happened each of the past three seasons.


I'd think Cox would command an equal salary to Talib on the open market.


Really? I didnt think so. I thought he was pretty low profile.

Would you pay Talib or is there another CB you would target?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't the reason Harvin is available because he wants a new contract? If the Pats are trading for him, I'd think you'd have to factor in at least $7M and probably 8-9M for him.

To be honest, I see this as a worse roster than the team ended 2012 with so you'd need big improvements from some of the young players. Other than getting Jones healthy, I don't see where that improvement is coming from.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
Isn't the reason Harvin is available because he wants a new contract? If the Pats are trading for him, I'd think you'd have to factor in at least $7M and probably 8-9M for him.

To be honest, I see this as a worse roster than the team ended 2012 with so you'd need big improvements from some of the young players. Other than getting Jones healthy, I don't see where that improvement is coming from.


When you do extend him you can structure it to keep the 2013 number relatively low. Next year Brady will get an extension lowering his cap number.

Harvin is better than Welker. All youve lost is Talib. How is this not a better roster than 2012.

Unless you credit Talib exclusively for the 2nd half improvement of the D, I'm not sure how you support your position.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cochise wrote:
24isthelaw wrote:
Sciz wrote:
cochise wrote:
Sciz wrote:
So the Pats are going for a new passing yards allowed record?


The only subtraction from the defense is Talib. The additions are Derek Cox, Kawann Short, Ras I. Dowling, and Jon Cyprien. That equates to worst defense in league?
If Cox is the solution to the Pats' passing woes, then he's going to cost way more than $2.5M. And you don't really have a backup plan for when he gets hurt, which has happened each of the past three seasons.


I'd think Cox would command an equal salary to Talib on the open market.


Really? I didnt think so. I thought he was pretty low profile.

Would you pay Talib or is there another CB you would target?


Cox is the best corner on the market. Its just a matter of his health questions, which IMO probably depresses his value to the same as an inferior but "safer" player in Talib.
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