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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blair18 wrote:
Hmm. I think Jones' injury situation may drop him a bit, plus centers just seem to fall on the day of the draft.

Oh yeah. You do have us grabbing Vasquez. Didn't Long play Tackle and move to Guard though. Is it possible he could switch back?

The top ones really don't. Center is such a premium position IMO. That's a lot of why I would be willing to take Schwenke in the 2nd - if you can lock down a solid pivot for 10 years that's huge.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Lil' AZ #3 keeping me sleepless mock Reply with quote

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Resign
OG Lance Louis (2 years $5.5M) - a "prove it" contract beneficial to both sides as it gives the Bears a present day discount for the injury and let's Louis cash in soon if he proves healthy.

OT Jon Scott (1 year, $1M) - he played admirably when stepping in at RT last year in a scheme less friendly to OL than that Trestman will be installing.

DE Israel Idonije (1 year, $2M) - solid rotational player along the DL is one we should keep on board.

DT Henry Melton ($8M (tag)) - I have concerns about his long signability especially if his desire is to go home to Dallas and reunite with Marineli but he's not going anywhere this year.

DT Nate Collins (RFA tender) - solid reserve and rotational player who was effective all season.

DT Amobe Okoye (1 year $900k) - depth player on a minimum deal.

MLB Brian Urlacher (1 year $2M + performance incentives) - gut pick here that he stays. I read a quote from him recently expressing his desire to stay and an understanding he'd take a pay cut. This deal seems like a winner for both parties with the Bears protecting themselves against further decline (see below) and Lach having a chance to make more if he returns to form.

CB Kelvin Hayden (1 year $1M) - I don't see there bring a big market for him and this is home. Adequate sub package guy and injury fill in.

CB Zack Bowman (1 year $900k) - depth player on a minimum deal.

Cut
WR Devin Hester
TE Kellen Davis
TE Matt Spaeth

Restructure
DE Julius Peppers (2013 cap number to $10M)

Extensions (added to end of current deal; cap hits starting 2014)
CB Charles Tillman (3 years $30M) (8/8/14)
SS Major Wright 4 years, $18M (3.5/4/4.5/6)

Free Agents
QB Matt Moore (2 years $5.5M) - solid backup who should be able to succeed in this offense if called upon.

WR Devery Henderson (1 year $1.2M) - a prototypical sub package deep threat. Henderson has had more than 34 catches just once in 9 seasons but will stretch the field as a 3rd or 4th receiver.

TE Ben Watson (2 years $5M) - over 150 catches the past 3 years in Cleveland. He's getting up there in years but remains productive in the passing game. He won't break the bank but will add a real receiving threat at the position.

OG Louis Vasquez (5 years $26M) - a very solid RG who is strong as an ox and who has held up well in pass pro in front of Philip Rivers. His signing moves Louis to LG which I believe may be his best position anyway.

Draft
1. Kevin Minter, MLB, LSU - I see Minter as the best prepared MLB to start from day 1 in this class but in this scenario he apprentices under 54 and upgrades us at SLB for 2013. In the event that 54 goes down again I think Minter could step in just fine with JT Thomas or Costanzo sliding in at SLB.

2 Brian Schwenke, C, Cal - Some will see this as a reach but I see Schwenke as being the 3rd best pure center prospect in this class behind Cooper and Jones. He showed well at the Senior Bowl and I don't see him lasting to our 4th. He pushes Garza right away IMO and is certainly ready to take over in 2014 if Garza shows well enough to hold him off.

4. Gavin Escobar, TE, SD State - Escobar is a talented receiver right now who will need to improve as a blocker but will have some time to do so with Watson on the roster. I expect he will be able to provide a boost to the passing game this year in 2 TE sets and by 2014 could be a real asset to Cutler.

5. Adrian Bushell, CB, Louisville - Bushell is a bigger corner (5'11" 187 lb) with adequate speed who has good instincts and who shows good man cover skills and isn't shy in run support. He needs to get a bit bigger to be a starter IMO but in this scenario he comes in as a #4 corner with time to develop.

6 Ray Ray Armstrong, SS, Miami - This is a bit of a shot in the dark pick, especially since I have us extending Wright. Armstrong was a top recruit who never lived up to the hype but he is an exceptional athlete who should be an asset on ST. With Steltz's deal being up after 2013 and with us not knowing what we have in Hardin he's a good risk at this point. If he blossoms into what he was expected to be 4 years ago then the pick is a home run and if not then he's probably a core ST guy. Can't have too many of those.

Depth

QB: Cutler, Moore
RB: Forte, Bush, Allen
FB: Rodriguez
WR: Marshall, Jeffery, Bennett, Henderson, Weems, Anderson
TE: Watson, Escobar, Adams
LT: Webb
LG: Louis, Brown
C: Schwenke, Garza
RG: Vasquez
RT: Scott, Carimi

DE: Peppers, Wootton, McClellin, Idonije
DT: Melton, Paea, Collins, Okoye, Toeaina
OLB: Briggs, Minter, Thomas, Costanzo,
MLB: Urlacher, Minter, DeCicco
CB: Tillman, Jennings, Hayden, Bushell, Bowman, McCoy
S: Wright, Conte, Hardin, Armstrong, Steltz, Walters

K: Gould
P: Podlesh
LS: Mannelly
Is Lil' AZ a boy or girl? My first grandchild is due in July and I could not resist buying s/he their first Bears bear the other day. First thing s/he should see in their crib - the Bears jersey.

You assume Knox retires or that the Bears won't tender him?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ak06max wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
I really like this offseason.


I like but do not want Webb as our starting LT next year
While Webb played better last year and was good the second half no one would be unhappy for the Bears to finds someone better. But there is no chance we are going to pay someone slightly better 10x what we are paying him. And there is no one 10x better.

We are fortunate to have a durable, young player like Webb to develop further and we will do just that.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bears2308 wrote:
Can't say I'd be happy going into the season with Webb and Scott as our tackles. I'd much rather sign a linebacker like Daryl Smith/Maualuga and draft an OT if we aren't snagging one in FA.
There is little chance of drafting a starting tackle for next year. And probably none whose cost/benefit would justify signing in FA. BUT, should that ratio turn favorable, I am sure Emery will jump on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Lil' AZ #3 keeping me sleepless mock Reply with quote

ChicagoAl wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
Resign
OG Lance Louis (2 years $5.5M) - a "prove it" contract beneficial to both sides as it gives the Bears a present day discount for the injury and let's Louis cash in soon if he proves healthy.

OT Jon Scott (1 year, $1M) - he played admirably when stepping in at RT last year in a scheme less friendly to OL than that Trestman will be installing.

DE Israel Idonije (1 year, $2M) - solid rotational player along the DL is one we should keep on board.

DT Henry Melton ($8M (tag)) - I have concerns about his long signability especially if his desire is to go home to Dallas and reunite with Marineli but he's not going anywhere this year.

DT Nate Collins (RFA tender) - solid reserve and rotational player who was effective all season.

DT Amobe Okoye (1 year $900k) - depth player on a minimum deal.

MLB Brian Urlacher (1 year $2M + performance incentives) - gut pick here that he stays. I read a quote from him recently expressing his desire to stay and an understanding he'd take a pay cut. This deal seems like a winner for both parties with the Bears protecting themselves against further decline (see below) and Lach having a chance to make more if he returns to form.

CB Kelvin Hayden (1 year $1M) - I don't see there bring a big market for him and this is home. Adequate sub package guy and injury fill in.

CB Zack Bowman (1 year $900k) - depth player on a minimum deal.

Cut
WR Devin Hester
TE Kellen Davis
TE Matt Spaeth

Restructure
DE Julius Peppers (2013 cap number to $10M)

Extensions (added to end of current deal; cap hits starting 2014)
CB Charles Tillman (3 years $30M) (8/8/14)
SS Major Wright 4 years, $18M (3.5/4/4.5/6)

Free Agents
QB Matt Moore (2 years $5.5M) - solid backup who should be able to succeed in this offense if called upon.

WR Devery Henderson (1 year $1.2M) - a prototypical sub package deep threat. Henderson has had more than 34 catches just once in 9 seasons but will stretch the field as a 3rd or 4th receiver.

TE Ben Watson (2 years $5M) - over 150 catches the past 3 years in Cleveland. He's getting up there in years but remains productive in the passing game. He won't break the bank but will add a real receiving threat at the position.

OG Louis Vasquez (5 years $26M) - a very solid RG who is strong as an ox and who has held up well in pass pro in front of Philip Rivers. His signing moves Louis to LG which I believe may be his best position anyway.

Draft
1. Kevin Minter, MLB, LSU - I see Minter as the best prepared MLB to start from day 1 in this class but in this scenario he apprentices under 54 and upgrades us at SLB for 2013. In the event that 54 goes down again I think Minter could step in just fine with JT Thomas or Costanzo sliding in at SLB.

2 Brian Schwenke, C, Cal - Some will see this as a reach but I see Schwenke as being the 3rd best pure center prospect in this class behind Cooper and Jones. He showed well at the Senior Bowl and I don't see him lasting to our 4th. He pushes Garza right away IMO and is certainly ready to take over in 2014 if Garza shows well enough to hold him off.

4. Gavin Escobar, TE, SD State - Escobar is a talented receiver right now who will need to improve as a blocker but will have some time to do so with Watson on the roster. I expect he will be able to provide a boost to the passing game this year in 2 TE sets and by 2014 could be a real asset to Cutler.

5. Adrian Bushell, CB, Louisville - Bushell is a bigger corner (5'11" 187 lb) with adequate speed who has good instincts and who shows good man cover skills and isn't shy in run support. He needs to get a bit bigger to be a starter IMO but in this scenario he comes in as a #4 corner with time to develop.

6 Ray Ray Armstrong, SS, Miami - This is a bit of a shot in the dark pick, especially since I have us extending Wright. Armstrong was a top recruit who never lived up to the hype but he is an exceptional athlete who should be an asset on ST. With Steltz's deal being up after 2013 and with us not knowing what we have in Hardin he's a good risk at this point. If he blossoms into what he was expected to be 4 years ago then the pick is a home run and if not then he's probably a core ST guy. Can't have too many of those.

Depth

QB: Cutler, Moore
RB: Forte, Bush, Allen
FB: Rodriguez
WR: Marshall, Jeffery, Bennett, Henderson, Weems, Anderson
TE: Watson, Escobar, Adams
LT: Webb
LG: Louis, Brown
C: Schwenke, Garza
RG: Vasquez
RT: Scott, Carimi

DE: Peppers, Wootton, McClellin, Idonije
DT: Melton, Paea, Collins, Okoye, Toeaina
OLB: Briggs, Minter, Thomas, Costanzo,
MLB: Urlacher, Minter, DeCicco
CB: Tillman, Jennings, Hayden, Bushell, Bowman, McCoy
S: Wright, Conte, Hardin, Armstrong, Steltz, Walters

K: Gould
P: Podlesh
LS: Mannelly
Is Lil' AZ a boy or girl? My first grandchild is due in July and I could not resist buying s/he their first Bears bear the other day. First thing s/he should see in their crib - the Bears jersey.

You assume Knox retires or that the Bears won't tender him?

Congrats on the soon-to-be first grandchild. Lil' AZ #3, like #1 and #2, is a boy. Mrs. AZ is so screwed lol...

And yes, I am assuming that Knox will not be back, or at least I don't see how we can plan for him to be back. I would put the odds at 75/25 against him ever playing again, and even if he somehow gets back it will likely be without ever regaining 100% of his best asset as a WR (the great speed). Sad story, especially since all accounts I have heard are that he's a great kid, but it is what it is and neither Emery or the current coaching regime have any ties to him.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Lil' AZ #3 keeping me sleepless mock Reply with quote

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ChicagoAl wrote:
AZBearsFan wrote:
]Is Lil' AZ a boy or girl? My first grandchild is due in July and I could not resist buying s/he their first Bears bear the other day. First thing s/he should see in their crib - the Bears jersey.

You assume Knox retires or that the Bears won't tender him?

Congrats on the soon-to-be first grandchild. Lil' AZ #3, like #1 and #2, is a boy. Mrs. AZ is so screwed lol... My mom had SEVEN sons. She is 86.

And yes, I am assuming that Knox will not be back, or at least I don't see how we can plan for him to be back. I would put the odds at 75/25 against him ever playing again, and even if he somehow gets back it will likely be without ever regaining 100% of his best asset as a WR (the great speed). Sad story, especially since all accounts I have heard are that he's a great kid, but it is what it is and neither Emery or the current coaching regime have any ties to him.
As you know I am his biggest fan so it hurts to concur with your evaluation.
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