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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This obviously has nothing to do with Dashon's contract, but do you think he'd be exponentially better playing SS?



I think the notions of FS and SS don't mean much in today's NFL. Both safeties have to be able to do everything if they want to succeed. That means covering man, zone, playing in the box, hitting, reading the QB's eyes, etc. I don't really see how much Dashon's game would change if he switched position.


I think you are partially correct in that you must do all things well but there is definitely preferred skill set for each position. Our SS is more of a in-box type who must tackle extremely well. Dashon can tackle and is physical but he is much better coming from 12-15 yards out rather than within steps of the LOS and having to deal with traffic. In our system he is an ideal FS.



I don't think we use our SS in a certain way because it's position-specific, but rather because it's his strengths. If we "switched" Dashon to SS, we would still play him to his strengths. His biggest strength, as I see it, is sniping. I haven't watched many safeties around the league with much attention, but I think Goldson is one of the better safety in the league, at reading a running play from his (deep) safety position, and shooting to the line of scrimmage to make a tackle. That's what I call sniping. If he played in the box more, sure, he would still make that tackle. But it's a great luxury to have when a player can make a tackle at the LOS from his safety spot. Not having to play a safety in the box is like having the ability to rush only four guys to apply pressure. It's a very good luxury to have, and it allows you to run all sorts of coverages while still being strong against the run. He doesn't have to switch position anyway. I would like to see more designed "in the box" plays for Goldson. I'd like to see him blitz and hit the QB from the blindside. It's almost a guaranteed fumble.
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I believe at very worst we'll be franchising him again, but at this point he's going to be our top priority this offseason. I'd expect him to be pretty pricey, as that's why he currently doesn't have a longterm deal.
To add to this we should have some money to spend after a certain player is likely to be gone. We need to resign him. He's been one of the best safeties in the league for a couple years now. I think they'll get it done by a contract or F tag.


Would this certain someone play the te position?
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I believe at very worst we'll be franchising him again, but at this point he's going to be our top priority this offseason. I'd expect him to be pretty pricey, as that's why he currently doesn't have a longterm deal.
To add to this we should have some money to spend after a certain player is likely to be gone. We need to resign him. He's been one of the best safeties in the league for a couple years now. I think they'll get it done by a contract or F tag.


Would this certain someone play the te position?


...No.
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y2lamanaki wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
steadypimpin wrote:
y2lamanaki wrote:
I believe at very worst we'll be franchising him again, but at this point he's going to be our top priority this offseason. I'd expect him to be pretty pricey, as that's why he currently doesn't have a longterm deal.
To add to this we should have some money to spend after a certain player is likely to be gone. We need to resign him. He's been one of the best safeties in the league for a couple years now. I think they'll get it done by a contract or F tag.


Would this certain someone play the te position?


...No.


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y2lamanaki wrote:
deuces22wild wrote:
steadypimpin wrote:
y2lamanaki wrote:
I believe at very worst we'll be franchising him again, but at this point he's going to be our top priority this offseason. I'd expect him to be pretty pricey, as that's why he currently doesn't have a longterm deal.
To add to this we should have some money to spend after a certain player is likely to be gone. We need to resign him. He's been one of the best safeties in the league for a couple years now. I think they'll get it done by a contract or F tag.


Would this certain someone play the te position?


...No.


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Yeah, but he's definitely not the "certain someone."
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"I felt that they wanted me to prove myself, and I think I did just that," the 49ers safety said Tuesday as he was cleaning out his locker. "So if I was in the position again with the franchise tag, I'd be very surprised."

***Update*** When Jim Harbaugh later was asked about Goldson and his desire for a long-term contract, he said: "He's somebody that I think you reward. Plays every game, can find the ball. You know that he's out there. The opposing offense knows that he's out there. ... He just does everything you want a safety to do. And you reward those types of people."

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/02/goldson-states-his-case-does-not-want-franchise-tag-in-2013.html
i agree. hopefully we can work something team friendly out. we gots a lot of stars on this team
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Yeah I have definitely changed my stance on both safety's. Goldson has to stay, and Whitner has to be the guy we look to replace. Probably not able to this upcoming season, but possibly the following one.
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From what I have been seeing, my feelings wouldn't be hurt one iota if we dumped Whitner ( 4 mil gain on cap room ) and plugged Spillman in to battle a 2nd-4th round safety prospect.

I also would be very interested in if the coaches see a strong future at FS in a youngster like Trent Robinson.
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Dashon Goldson multi-year deal coming? Called a priority by Jim Harbaugh: "He's somebody that you reward." http://bit.ly/UuB0le #NFL



What Harbaugh says and what Baalke does are two separate things. It's just another prime example of Harbaugh praising one of his players in public.
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Dashon Goldson multi-year deal coming? Called a priority by Jim Harbaugh: "He's somebody that you reward." http://bit.ly/UuB0le #NFL



What Harbaugh says and what Baalke does are two separate things. It's just another prime example of Harbaugh praising one of his players in public.


I think we all can safely agree with Harbaugh on this one though. And it's not like we haven't awarded players who have earned it.
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^ I think we can all safely believe that we shouldn't believe anything Harbaugh ever says to the media.
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^ I think we can all safely believe that we shouldn't believe anything Harbaugh ever says to the media.



I think we can all safely believe that what oldman says about believing what Harbaugh says to the media is believable.
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Hey guys, with how solid the draft this year is at the safety position and the huge contracts possibly coming to players like Kaepernick, Anthony Davis, Crabtree, Iupati, Aldon Smith all projected fa's in 2015, do you think Golston is actually given a huge contract?

Would it be wise to "save" that money and draft a safety this year?
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Hey guys, with how solid the draft this year is at the safety position and the huge contracts possibly coming to players like Kaepernick, Anthony Davis, Crabtree, Iupati, Aldon Smith all projected fa's in 2015, do you think Golston is actually given a huge contract?

Would it be wise to "save" that money and draft a safety this year?
a rookie isnt guaranteed to be as good as Goldson plays so no to that. Maybe for Whitner but we need to keep Goldson.
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