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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

diamondbull424 wrote:
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But that was two years ago. Flacco has increased his awareness since then... plus, KO is flat out better than Grubbs in every respect as a LG. Grubbs was not an elite pass protector. He allowed too much penetration from big dominating guys. Whereas when KO gets his hands on a defensive player, it's over. He just dominates them to no end. Grubbs was very good because of his athleticism, but KO is just as athletic (in small areas) and so much more powerful. Between KO and Yanda, defenders get zero penetration. Grubbs could stay on a block, but his guy would still push him back and cause the pocket to shrink in space.

There was a greater consistency to the interior OL with KO at LG than Grubbs. Grubbs simply was never on the level of play KO has been in any facet of his game. KO seems smarter as well. Stunts were a problem when Grubbs played LG, but with KO over there, rarely did it seem like our left side was confused. Part of this could be sample size, but until now, KO has simply outclassed anything Grubbs was able to do at that spot. And it's made the interior pass blocking go from good to elite.


Grubbs just got more and more overrated when he was here, honestly. He peaked early in his career. His return midway through 2011 didn't provide the lift anyone expected it to, yet no one seemed to notice and everyone sung his praises. He wasn't worth what New Orleans paid him, he didn't deserve the Pro Bowl he was selected to, and I was glad to see him go.

Agreed. I also don't think we win this Super Bowl with Grubbs and without KO. KO at LG has flat out been providing elite play... the only top 5 lists Grubbs deserved to be on was top 5... at left guard. KO, with a greater sample size, is probably a top 5 OG. He's just flat out dominant and it's incredible having both him and Yanda inside and how they just stop any DL in their way. They're both smart and tough SOBs inside that play with nastiness. To think we've got KO at such a low salary for at least another three years at such a low rate. All we need now is a consistent LT option to protect Flacco's blindside and we're good... and by consistent, I mean, I don't trust McKinnie over a full 16 games in a regular season.


It's a good thing Mr. X isn't in Ozzie's position... we would have had Grubbs over Boldin Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would to thank Sam Koch for being really fast and really smart. Although his punting skills are REALLY taking a hit (2 punts in the endzone and 1 shank???), he's probably the fastest punter in the game and the intentional safety was brilliant!

I would also like to thank Sizzle and Upshaw for making the read option basically invisible all game long because our OLB's were coached to just go and hit the QB no matte what and let everyone else hunt the RB, and it worked. They did it to perfection and Kaep never was able to beat us with his legs on read option plays!

Lastly, thank you Bernard Pierce! You made so many good runs this year and you were way better than Ray Rice was the entire postseason, sadly for Rice. Dat elusiveness and dat speed is something that is really going to make you dangerous for the next decade or so.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So turns out Pollard played the entire season with six broken ribs while leading the team in tackles ... What?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So turns out Pollard played the entire season with six broken ribs while leading the team in tackles ... What?


Can't imagine how painful that is, and he was still bringing the wood while tackling people! What a freaking dude.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nevermore wrote:
So turns out Pollard played the entire season with six broken ribs while leading the team in tackles ... What?


He brings the notion of "Playing like a Raven" to a whole new level.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaccomania wrote:
diamondbull424 wrote:
GaTechRavens wrote:
diamondbull424 wrote:

But that was two years ago. Flacco has increased his awareness since then... plus, KO is flat out better than Grubbs in every respect as a LG. Grubbs was not an elite pass protector. He allowed too much penetration from big dominating guys. Whereas when KO gets his hands on a defensive player, it's over. He just dominates them to no end. Grubbs was very good because of his athleticism, but KO is just as athletic (in small areas) and so much more powerful. Between KO and Yanda, defenders get zero penetration. Grubbs could stay on a block, but his guy would still push him back and cause the pocket to shrink in space.

There was a greater consistency to the interior OL with KO at LG than Grubbs. Grubbs simply was never on the level of play KO has been in any facet of his game. KO seems smarter as well. Stunts were a problem when Grubbs played LG, but with KO over there, rarely did it seem like our left side was confused. Part of this could be sample size, but until now, KO has simply outclassed anything Grubbs was able to do at that spot. And it's made the interior pass blocking go from good to elite.


Grubbs just got more and more overrated when he was here, honestly. He peaked early in his career. His return midway through 2011 didn't provide the lift anyone expected it to, yet no one seemed to notice and everyone sung his praises. He wasn't worth what New Orleans paid him, he didn't deserve the Pro Bowl he was selected to, and I was glad to see him go.

Agreed. I also don't think we win this Super Bowl with Grubbs and without KO. KO at LG has flat out been providing elite play... the only top 5 lists Grubbs deserved to be on was top 5... at left guard. KO, with a greater sample size, is probably a top 5 OG. He's just flat out dominant and it's incredible having both him and Yanda inside and how they just stop any DL in their way. They're both smart and tough SOBs inside that play with nastiness. To think we've got KO at such a low salary for at least another three years at such a low rate. All we need now is a consistent LT option to protect Flacco's blindside and we're good... and by consistent, I mean, I don't trust McKinnie over a full 16 games in a regular season.


It's a good thing Mr. X isn't in Ozzie's position... we would have had Grubbs over Boldin Wink


Where is he? Kind of disappeared after his big "I told-you-so" comeback ~2 months ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sp6488 wrote:
Where is he? Kind of disappeared after his big "I told-you-so" comeback ~2 months ago.


He may have imploded.
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