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tml_gogo
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Cardinals just got Ryan Mallett. This kinda seems like the exact same experiment as Kolb, but whatever. 
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REDandPEWTER
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| tml_gogo wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | If we're looking at QB, EJ Manuel is growing on me. I like the poise and confidence he has in the pocket. Like his athleticism. He's an accurate thrower whos been nothing but a winner at Florida State. Good feel for the pocket. Mechanics are sound. Listening to him speak and his command, seems like the intangibles are there.
I think we should give him a hard look. |
Not overly accurate though..reminds me of just another Freeman. |
Please elaborate how he reminds you of freeman? Besides skin color and physical frame , I see two completely different qbs. |
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tml_gogo
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| REDandPEWTER wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | If we're looking at QB, EJ Manuel is growing on me. I like the poise and confidence he has in the pocket. Like his athleticism. He's an accurate thrower whos been nothing but a winner at Florida State. Good feel for the pocket. Mechanics are sound. Listening to him speak and his command, seems like the intangibles are there.
I think we should give him a hard look. |
Not overly accurate though..reminds me of just another Freeman. |
Please elaborate how he reminds you of freeman? Besides skin color and physical frame , I see two completely different qbs. |
Woah, nobody was going there buddy. No need to turn this into THAT kinda debate.
Both of them:
- Very big guys
- Very strong arm
- Athletically gifted
- Issues with accuracy
- Issues with consistency
Pretty similar guys.
EDIT: Here is WalterFootball's scouting report on EJ Manuel.
| Quote: | Strengths:
Dual-Threat Quarterback
Powerful arm
Excellent mobility
Size and strength
Escapability
Experienced
Quick release
Weaknesses:
Not a natural passer
Decision-making
Field vision
Struggles to work through progressions
Runs to quickly
Spotty accuracy
Can panic at times
Didn't play as well against good defenses |
Please, tell me how that doesn't sound exactly like Freeman.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| EJ Manuel sucks. He is the most un-clutch QB in college football. His deep ball is mediocre at best and wish he had the arm strength Freeman had. If we draft a QB wait till 2014. |
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5nick5
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| REDandPEWTER wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | If we're looking at QB, EJ Manuel is growing on me. I like the poise and confidence he has in the pocket. Like his athleticism. He's an accurate thrower whos been nothing but a winner at Florida State. Good feel for the pocket. Mechanics are sound. Listening to him speak and his command, seems like the intangibles are there.
I think we should give him a hard look. |
Not overly accurate though..reminds me of just another Freeman. |
Please elaborate how he reminds you of freeman? Besides skin color and physical frame , I see two completely different qbs. |
Well their skin color is different, but anyway, they play the same. Issues with accuracy, scanning the field. Freeman issues.
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Soul Glo
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just some news: Percy Harvin = officially member of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers & Myron Lewis, Eric Wright, and Quincy Black have all been cut (saving $13,825,000).
| Quote: | RFA
-DE Daniel Teo-Nesheim (Original Draft Round)
Franchise Tag
- DE Michael Bennett ($10,984,000)
Extension
-we would like to extend Mike Williams
Resign
-Ronde Barber |
just a few reminders: we cannot restructure/extend after the tag, are we sill cool with taggin Bennett? - we can only resign and extend one guy each. All cool with restructuring McCoy, anyone else we'd like to reconstructure? |
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| Soul Glo wrote: | just some news: Percy Harvin = officially member of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers & Myron Lewis, Eric Wright, and Quincy Black have all been cut (saving $13,825,000).
| Quote: | RFA
-DE Daniel Teo-Nesheim (Original Draft Round)
Franchise Tag
- DE Michael Bennett ($10,984,000)
Extension
-we would like to extend Mike Williams
Resign
-Ronde Barber |
just a few reminders: we cannot restructure/extend after the tag, are we sill cool with taggin Bennett? - we can only resign and extend one guy each. All cool with restructuring McCoy, anyone else we'd like to reconstructure? |
This all looks good to me.
Do we want to extend Mike Williams or Percy Harvin? You can make an argument for either one of them.
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tml_gogo
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I'd like to extend Percy Harvin, and since we can restructure anyone with no realism involved, do any one of our highest paid players. Penn, Freeman, etc.
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| tml_gogo wrote: | | I'd like to extend Percy Harvin, and since we can restructure anyone with no realism involved, do any one of our highest paid players. Penn, Freeman, etc. |
I'd Probably say restructure Penn and McCoy, and most definitely Michael Konen. Atleast drop his 3.25 mil down to 1 million, which is somewhat more reasonable. |
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tml_gogo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| REDandPEWTER wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | I'd like to extend Percy Harvin, and since we can restructure anyone with no realism involved, do any one of our highest paid players. Penn, Freeman, etc. |
I'd Probably say restructure Penn and McCoy, and most definitely Michael Konen. Atleast drop his 3.25 mil down to 1 million, which is somewhat more reasonable. |
I believe we can only restructure two guys. Keonen is definitely overpaid, but if we can save more with Penn and Mccoy I'd rather do that.
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| tml_gogo wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | I'd like to extend Percy Harvin, and since we can restructure anyone with no realism involved, do any one of our highest paid players. Penn, Freeman, etc. |
I'd Probably say restructure Penn and McCoy, and most definitely Michael Konen. Atleast drop his 3.25 mil down to 1 million, which is somewhat more reasonable. |
I believe we can only restructure two guys. Keonen is definitely overpaid, but if we can save more with Penn and Mccoy I'd rather do that. |
Yea i say we just release Koenon then try and pick him back up in FA. Paying a punter 3.25m just doesnt make sense.
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| CHOMP_CHOMP wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | I'd like to extend Percy Harvin, and since we can restructure anyone with no realism involved, do any one of our highest paid players. Penn, Freeman, etc. |
I'd Probably say restructure Penn and McCoy, and most definitely Michael Konen. Atleast drop his 3.25 mil down to 1 million, which is somewhat more reasonable. |
I believe we can only restructure two guys. Keonen is definitely overpaid, but if we can save more with Penn and Mccoy I'd rather do that. |
Yea i say we just release Koenon then try and pick him back up in FA. Paying a punter 3.25m just doesnt make sense. |
We may end up paying more for him if we do that. Open market bidding gets crazy very quickly in FFMD.
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tml_gogo
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| DaRealdeal wrote: | | CHOMP_CHOMP wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | I'd like to extend Percy Harvin, and since we can restructure anyone with no realism involved, do any one of our highest paid players. Penn, Freeman, etc. |
I'd Probably say restructure Penn and McCoy, and most definitely Michael Konen. Atleast drop his 3.25 mil down to 1 million, which is somewhat more reasonable. |
I believe we can only restructure two guys. Keonen is definitely overpaid, but if we can save more with Penn and Mccoy I'd rather do that. |
Yea i say we just release Koenon then try and pick him back up in FA. Paying a punter 3.25m just doesnt make sense. |
We may end up paying more for him if we do that. Open market bidding gets crazy very quickly in FFMD. |
In a world where Mario Manningham gets $80 million, Keonen is better off on our roster for $3.25 mil.
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| tml_gogo wrote: | | DaRealdeal wrote: | | CHOMP_CHOMP wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | I'd like to extend Percy Harvin, and since we can restructure anyone with no realism involved, do any one of our highest paid players. Penn, Freeman, etc. |
I'd Probably say restructure Penn and McCoy, and most definitely Michael Konen. Atleast drop his 3.25 mil down to 1 million, which is somewhat more reasonable. |
I believe we can only restructure two guys. Keonen is definitely overpaid, but if we can save more with Penn and Mccoy I'd rather do that. |
Yea i say we just release Koenon then try and pick him back up in FA. Paying a punter 3.25m just doesnt make sense. |
We may end up paying more for him if we do that. Open market bidding gets crazy very quickly in FFMD. |
In a world where Mario Manningham gets $80 million, Keonen is better off on our roster for $3.25 mil. |
Exactly, FFMD is not a buyers market for FA. It turns crazy real quick.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| YoungBucs15 wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | DaRealdeal wrote: | | CHOMP_CHOMP wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | REDandPEWTER wrote: | | tml_gogo wrote: | | I'd like to extend Percy Harvin, and since we can restructure anyone with no realism involved, do any one of our highest paid players. Penn, Freeman, etc. |
I'd Probably say restructure Penn and McCoy, and most definitely Michael Konen. Atleast drop his 3.25 mil down to 1 million, which is somewhat more reasonable. |
I believe we can only restructure two guys. Keonen is definitely overpaid, but if we can save more with Penn and Mccoy I'd rather do that. |
Yea i say we just release Koenon then try and pick him back up in FA. Paying a punter 3.25m just doesnt make sense. |
We may end up paying more for him if we do that. Open market bidding gets crazy very quickly in FFMD. |
In a world where Mario Manningham gets $80 million, Keonen is better off on our roster for $3.25 mil. |
Exactly, FFMD is not a buyers market for FA. It turns crazy real quick. |
I would just rather draft a punter in the 6th or 7th round then.
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