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JohnnyV


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jrugges wrote:
An I don't think JohnnyV was off by saying Kolb's about as good as Matt Moore is right now. It's just the price is clearly upsetting and it's got to be lowered.


Given. We know this now, but not much we can do other than restructure.

I'd love to have all that money back, not to mention our 2nd round selection and DRC's value at the time.

But, like everything else that happened under the Whiz/Graves resigme, all we can do is move forward.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do we think Kolb would possibly buy into accepting a Matt Flynn type deal?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a Matt Moore vs Alex Smith vs Kevin Kolb battle, lets face it they all would've had about the same production but Kolb is the worst option for 2 reasons his contract and how fragile he is. I love Kolb but we would need at least a servicable backup, which is what we're calling Kolb!

We need to resturcture his contract or cut him. But cutting him I don't believe gets us anywhere cause like we've stated earlier in this thread is going to leave us right back where we are. Restructure is definetely plan A in my opinion
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were putting DJ Williams on the trade block. With the emergence of Wesley Woodyard, DJ is expendable. He'd be a nice fit next Washington.

Were looking at a mid round pick and/or player. Message me if interested in negotiating
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerseysFinest27 wrote:
Were putting DJ Williams on the trade block. With the emergence of Wesley Woodyard, DJ is expendable. He'd be a nice fit next Washington.

Were looking at a mid round pick and/or player. Message me if interested in negotiating


I can say that I am a little interested. They did put him into a 3-4 towards the end of the season after his suspension. But suspensions always worry me,I wouldn't give up more than a 5th.
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Just gauging interest in Michael Vick, shoot me a PM if interested.
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Any interest in HB Darren Sproles? We're looking for 3rd round value for him. PM me if interested
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been told by my source that there is a way to dump Kevin Kolb and save, basically, his entire salary against the 2013 cap. He informs me we can use one of our June 1st exemptions, which means we are allowed to cut a player before June 1st and roll over his prorated signing bonus into the next fiscal year. Note: This DOES NOT eliminate the prorated signing bonus from our cap obligations. It simply rolls it back into 2014.
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It is short term pain yes, but who plays QB then?

I have thought about that option champ, has its draw backs, too many for my liking.
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DJ_Fka wrote:
It is short term pain yes, but who plays QB then?

I have thought about that option champ, has its draw backs, too many for my liking.


Have to agree. Might be best for us to try and restructure. The long-term effects aren't good.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys interested in Ryan Fitzpatrick?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LionsFTW wrote:
You guys interested in Ryan Fitzpatrick?


I pretty well doubt it, but wouldn't hurt to hear his cap numbers, and your cost.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated and Offical: Please let me know of any mistakes... Our GM can now post this information on the front page if he so wishes. Just above 28 million dollars in cap space.


WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Roberts, Michael Floyd, Early Doucet, Kerry Taylor, LaRon Byrd
TE: Jeff King, Rob Housler, Jim Dray, Kory Sperry
RB: Beanie Wells, Ryan Williams, Fozzy Whittaker
FB: Anthony Sherman
QB Kevin Kolb, John Skelton, Ryan Lindley
OT: Levi Brown, Nate Potter
OG: Adam Snyder, Senio Kelemete
C: Lyle Sendlein, Scott Wedige
OG: Dary Colledge, Mike Gibson, Blake DeChristopher
OT: Bobby Massie

DE: Calais Campbell,
NT: Dan Williams, David Carter, Ricky Lumpkin
DE: Darnell Dockett, Everrette Thompson
OLB: Sam Acho,
ILB: Stewart Bradley, Tim Fugger, Colin Parker
ILB: Daryl Washington, Reggie Walker
OLB: O’Brien Schofield, Zach Nash
CB: Patrick Peterson,
S: Kerry Rhodes, Justin Bethel
S: Adrian Wilson,
CB: Williams Gay, Jamell Flemming

LS: Mike Leach
K: Jay Feely
P: Dave Zastudil
KR/PR: Fozzy Whittaker/Patrick Peterson


UFA’s:

Greg Toler, CB.
LaRod Stephens-Howling, RB.
James Sanders, S.
Pat McQuistan, OT/G.
Paris Lenon, ILB.
Rashad Johnson, S.
Brian Hoyer, QB.
Vonnie Holliday, DE.
Quentin Groves, OLB.
Nick Eason, DT/DE.
D’Anthony Batiste, OT.
Michael Adams, CB.

ERFA/RFA’s.

Javarris James, RB. Erfa.
Rich Ohrnberger, OG. rfa
William Powell, RB. Erfa.
Alfonso Smith, RB. Erfa.
Ronald Talley, DE. Erfa.
Brandon Williams, LB. rfa.

Numbers:

Sam Acho: 555,000(118,607 bonus) 673,607 cap.
Justin Bethel: 480,000(28,556 bonus) 508,556 cap.
Stewart Bradley: 5,000,000(1,500,000 bonus) 6,500,000 cap.
Levi Brown: 4,750,000(1,650,000 bonus). 6,400,000 cap.
LaRon Byrd: 480,000
Calais Campbell: 3,000,000(5,750,000 bonus) 8,750,000 cap.
David Carter: 555,000(25,966 bonus) 580,966 cap.
Daryn Colledge: 3,800,000(3,475,000 bonus). 7,275,000 cap.
Blake DeChristopher: 405,000
Darnell Dockett: 4,450,000(3,250,000 bonus) 7,700,000 cap.
Early Doucet: 1,950,000(300,000 bonus). 2,250,000 cap.
Jim Dray: 575,000(12,250 bonus) 587,250 cap.
Jay Feely: 1,500,000(250,000 bonus) 1,750,000 cap.
Larry Fitzgerald: 5,000,000(4,250,000 bonus) 9,250,000 cap.
Jamell Fleming: 495,000(146,500 bonus) 641,500 cap.
Michael Floyd: 843,250(1,423,000 bonus) 2,719,500 cap.
Tim Fugger: 405,000
William Gay: 3,225,000(375,000 bonus) 3,600,000 cap.
Mike Gibson: 715,000
Rob Housler: 620,000(196,023 bonus) 816,023 cap.
Senio Kelemete: 480,000(47,900 bonus) 527,900 cap.
Jeff King: 1,500,000(383,333 bonus). 1,883,333 cap.
Kevin Kolb: 9,000,000(4,500,000 bonus) 13,500,000 cap.
Mike Leach: 1,000,000(66,667 bonus) 1,066,667 cap.
Ryan Lindley: 480,000(26,327 bonus) 506,327 cap.
Ricky Lumpkin: 405,000
Bobby Massie: 480,000(110,845 bonus) 590,845 cap.
Zach Nash: 480,000
Colin Parker: 405,000
Patrick Peterson: 2,050,409(2,975,818 bonus) 5,026,227 cap.
Nate Potter: 480,000(14,850 bonus) 494,850 cap.
Kerry Rhodes: 4,500,000(1,500,000 bonus) 6,000,000 cap.
Andre Roberts: 1,323,000(181,000 bonus) 1,504,000 cap.
O’Brien Schofield: 1,323,000(107,250 bonus) 1,430,250 cap.
Lyle Sendlein: 2,400,000(1,275,000 bonus) 3,675,000 cap.
Anthony Sherman: 555,000(51,725 bonus) 606,725 cap.
John Skelton: 630,000(45,412 bonus) 675,412 cap.
Adam Snyder: 2,900,000(1,100,000 bonus) 4,000,000 cap.
Kory Sperry: 715,000
Kerry Taylor: 405,000
Everrette Thompson: 405,000
Reggie Walker: 950,000(217,000 bonus) 1,167,000 cap.
Daryl Washington: 2,400,000(2,943,750 bonus.) 5,343,750 cap.
Scott Wedige: 480,000
Beanie Wells: 1,407,500,(962,000 bonus) 2,370,000 cap.
Fozzy Whittaker: 405,000
Ryan Williams: 780,221(585,442 bonus) 1,593,274 cap.
Dan Williams: 910,000(1,345,000 bonus). 2,255,000 cap.
Adrian Wilson: 2,500,000(2,125,000 bonus) 4,625,000 cap.
Dave Zastudil: 1,475,000.

Dead money from players not on roster: 11, 475

Source: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idk what are total cap number is but if someone wants to help me out to save me time... They can just add up all the numbers that have CAP next to them and that total will be the teams salary cap number. If there's just one number next to their names that's there cap number/salary.

I'm not sure what our trade block should look like, so far the only suggestions have been..

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OT Levi Brown
OG Adam Snyder
RB Beanie Wells
WR Early Doucet
ILB Stewart Bradley
QB John Skelton
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jrugges wrote:
Idk what are total cap number is but if someone wants to help me out to save me time... They can just add up all the numbers that have CAP next to them and that total will be the teams salary cap number. If there's just one number next to their names that's there cap number/salary.

I'm not sure what our trade block should look like, so far the only suggestions have been..

Quote:

OT Levi Brown
OG Adam Snyder
RB Beanie Wells
WR Early Doucet
ILB Stewart Bradley
QB John Skelton


Haha not a lot of optinos when you need the only quality players you have and the players you COULD trade no one would want.
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