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Mudderfudder77
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 Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:13 pm Post subject: Bears Hire Tim Tibesar as LB Coach |
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RT @ESPNChiBears: Tibesar was the DC at Purdue last year. Worked with Marc Trestman in Montreal from 2009-2011.
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Madmike90
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Can’t say I have ever heard of the guy but he is another young coach 41 years old…smart off the field graduating with a 4.0 GPA in economics from North Dakota as well as summa cum laude…then got a master’s degree in business admin from SDSU…played LB at North Dakota being named all-conference 3 years in a row…first team All-American at that level in 96…begun coaching at North Dakota in 2001 taking charge of the ILBs…then moved on to Kansas State as ST coach in 2006 then DC in 07 & 08…then on to the Alouettes as LB coach for 2 years then promoted to DC in 2011 before taking the Purdue DC job in early 2012. |
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Mudderfudder77
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GOGRIESE
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IronMike84
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| GOGRIESE wrote: |
I closed it about 5 seconds after opening it. As for the hiring I like it. Another person that has worked with Marc. |
...but I thought Lovie was the only coach in the NFL who hired his friends? 
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GOGRIESE
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| IronMike84 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: |
I closed it about 5 seconds after opening it. As for the hiring I like it. Another person that has worked with Marc. |
...but I thought Lovie was the only coach in the NFL who hired his friends? |
No matter what the sport or level of the sport. The coach normally has people he has worked with on his staff.
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IronMike84
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| GOGRIESE wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: |
I closed it about 5 seconds after opening it. As for the hiring I like it. Another person that has worked with Marc. |
...but I thought Lovie was the only coach in the NFL who hired his friends? |
No matter what the sport or level of the sport. The coach normally has people he has worked with on his staff. |
Not if you read through some of the "clean house" threads from after the 2009 season. According to those Lovie is the only guy in pro sports to do that.
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GOGRIESE
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| IronMike84 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: |
I closed it about 5 seconds after opening it. As for the hiring I like it. Another person that has worked with Marc. |
...but I thought Lovie was the only coach in the NFL who hired his friends? |
No matter what the sport or level of the sport. The coach normally has people he has worked with on his staff. |
Not if you read through some of the "clean house" threads from after the 2009 season. According to those Lovie is the only guy in pro sports to do that. |
Yeah I understand. To me that doesnt matter....it matters if they are competent though which is where we have debates.
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Superman(DH23)
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| GOGRIESE wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: |
I closed it about 5 seconds after opening it. As for the hiring I like it. Another person that has worked with Marc. |
...but I thought Lovie was the only coach in the NFL who hired his friends? |
No matter what the sport or level of the sport. The coach normally has people he has worked with on his staff. |
Not if you read through some of the "clean house" threads from after the 2009 season. According to those Lovie is the only guy in pro sports to do that. |
Yeah I understand. To me that doesnt matter....it matters if they are competent though which is where we have debates. |
Did Lovie ever hire anybody who wasn't qualified for the job? I'm curious, did this dude play under Bob Babich at NDSU?
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Mudderfudder77
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Did Lovie ever hire anybody who wasn't qualified for the job? I'm curious, did this dude play under Bob Babich at NDSU? |
This is from an article comparing Trestman and Lovie's staffs when hired:
| Quote: | Trestman’s staff with the Bears includes three coaches he has worked with — offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer, tight ends coach Andy Bischoff and assistant defensive line coach Michael Sinclair. But more importantly, seven of the nine coaches Trestman hired have a combined 103 years of NFL experience, including 80 at the position they were hired to coach.
That doesn’t necessarily mean he picked the right guys. But it’s in stark contrast to Lovie Smith’s first staff in 2004. His 16 assistants had a combined 29 years of NFL experience and only nine years of experience at the position they were hired to coach. |
This isn't to say that Lovie's staff was unqualified - only that at the time they were relatively inexperienced in both the NFL as well as the positions they were being hired to coach.
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| Mudderfudder77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Did Lovie ever hire anybody who wasn't qualified for the job? I'm curious, did this dude play under Bob Babich at NDSU? |
This is from an article comparing Trestman and Lovie's staffs when hired:
| Quote: | Trestman’s staff with the Bears includes three coaches he has worked with — offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer, tight ends coach Andy Bischoff and assistant defensive line coach Michael Sinclair. But more importantly, seven of the nine coaches Trestman hired have a combined 103 years of NFL experience, including 80 at the position they were hired to coach.
That doesn’t necessarily mean he picked the right guys. But it’s in stark contrast to Lovie Smith’s first staff in 2004. His 16 assistants had a combined 29 years of NFL experience and only nine years of experience at the position they were hired to coach. |
This isn't to say that Lovie's staff was unqualified - only that at the time they were relatively inexperienced in both the NFL as well as the positions they were being hired to coach. |
It was 2004 and that's how it worked (and for the most part still does) w/ a new HC, they were promoted, they promote people w/ them. Coaches are rarely going to take a lateral move to coach under a brand new HC.
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Mudderfudder77
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Mudderfudder77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Did Lovie ever hire anybody who wasn't qualified for the job? I'm curious, did this dude play under Bob Babich at NDSU? |
This is from an article comparing Trestman and Lovie's staffs when hired:
| Quote: | Trestman’s staff with the Bears includes three coaches he has worked with — offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer, tight ends coach Andy Bischoff and assistant defensive line coach Michael Sinclair. But more importantly, seven of the nine coaches Trestman hired have a combined 103 years of NFL experience, including 80 at the position they were hired to coach.
That doesn’t necessarily mean he picked the right guys. But it’s in stark contrast to Lovie Smith’s first staff in 2004. His 16 assistants had a combined 29 years of NFL experience and only nine years of experience at the position they were hired to coach. |
This isn't to say that Lovie's staff was unqualified - only that at the time they were relatively inexperienced in both the NFL as well as the positions they were being hired to coach. |
It was 2004 and that's how it worked (and for the most part still does) w/ a new HC, they were promoted, they promote people w/ them. Coaches are rarely going to take a lateral move to coach under a brand new HC. |
Thats the point of the comparison - look at the experience of Trestman's staff compared to Lovie's - especially the experience coaching at the level they were hired to coach.
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Superman(DH23)
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| Mudderfudder77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Mudderfudder77 wrote: | | Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Did Lovie ever hire anybody who wasn't qualified for the job? I'm curious, did this dude play under Bob Babich at NDSU? |
This is from an article comparing Trestman and Lovie's staffs when hired:
| Quote: | Trestman’s staff with the Bears includes three coaches he has worked with — offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer, tight ends coach Andy Bischoff and assistant defensive line coach Michael Sinclair. But more importantly, seven of the nine coaches Trestman hired have a combined 103 years of NFL experience, including 80 at the position they were hired to coach.
That doesn’t necessarily mean he picked the right guys. But it’s in stark contrast to Lovie Smith’s first staff in 2004. His 16 assistants had a combined 29 years of NFL experience and only nine years of experience at the position they were hired to coach. |
This isn't to say that Lovie's staff was unqualified - only that at the time they were relatively inexperienced in both the NFL as well as the positions they were being hired to coach. |
It was 2004 and that's how it worked (and for the most part still does) w/ a new HC, they were promoted, they promote people w/ them. Coaches are rarely going to take a lateral move to coach under a brand new HC. |
Thats the point of the comparison - look at the experience of Trestman's staff compared to Lovie's - especially the experience coaching at the level they were hired to coach. |
I get that, but you're talking about a guy who has been an HC for 5 years, and an OC for 10 years before that. Lovie had only been a DC for 3 years when we hired him. He was 2004's hot young coaching candidate similar to the guys we've seen get HC jobs lately. Also keep in mind, he had input on his hires, but at that time, Jerry Angelo had final say on who was brought in under Lovie.
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Madmike90
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| A little strange that the Bears haven’t confirmed this yet. |
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GOGRIESE
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: | | IronMike84 wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: |
I closed it about 5 seconds after opening it. As for the hiring I like it. Another person that has worked with Marc. |
...but I thought Lovie was the only coach in the NFL who hired his friends? |
No matter what the sport or level of the sport. The coach normally has people he has worked with on his staff. |
Not if you read through some of the "clean house" threads from after the 2009 season. According to those Lovie is the only guy in pro sports to do that. |
Yeah I understand. To me that doesnt matter....it matters if they are competent though which is where we have debates. |
Did Lovie ever hire anybody who wasn't qualified for the job? I'm curious, did this dude play under Bob Babich at NDSU? |
Well thats completely pointless....qualified is one thing. Actually doing your job well is another. Im not getting in any of this stupid arguments. Lovie was fired and most of his staff is gone.
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