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Butter273


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject: Boom or Bust Mock 2013 Reply with quote

We are young but we are nor rebuilding. If you build it...they will come.

Resign

PR – Josh Cribbs – 3 year 10 million – 2013 cap hit: 1.5 million
- The heart and soul of the Cleveland Browns?


K – Phil Dawson – 3 year 7.5 million – 2013 cap hit: 2 million
- Can you argue against his production?


TE – Ben Watson– 2 year 7.5 million – 2013 cap hit: 1.5 million
- He might be on his way out but I think he's still got some gas in the tank.


Extend
C – Alex Mack – 5 Year 36 Million – 2013 cap hit: 2.5 million
- Pivotal to keep Mack on this line for years to come.


SS – TJ Ward – 4 year 12.5 million – 2013 cap hit: 3 million
- Locking up TJ would be a big hit! (See what I did there?)


High Priced Free Agents (10 Million + a year)
***NONE***

Mid-Level Free Agents (3-9 Million a year)
OG - Louis Vasquez – SD – 5 Year 20 Million – 2013 cap hit: 5 Million
- Norv Turner will use Vasquez to plug the major whole in the left side of the O-Line.


CB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie – PHI – 4 Year 20 Million – 2013 cap hit: 5 Million
- Horton knows what DRC can do and Banner will lure him to Cleveland.


FS - Jairus Byrd – BUF – 4 Year 20 Million – 2013 cap hit: 4 million
- While Chip Kelley may try and lure the Byrd man into Philly we deploy Jarius’s college roommate Mr. TJ Ward to seal the deal.


Low End Rotational Free Agents (Under 3 Million a year)
OLB - Quentin Groves – ARZ – 3 year 5 Million – 2013 cap hit: 1.5 Million
- Horton has helped train this once prominent pass rusher into a pretty decent rotational player in Arizona and will rally to bring him in to play the same role.


QB – Derek Anderson – CAR – 2 Year 2 Million – 2015 cap hit: 1 Million
- I don’t want him back but Colt is on his way out and Chud has a crush on him.


Restricted Free Agents
P - Britton Colquitt – DEN – (RFA)
- Big boots run in the Colquitt family and our transition game with Hodges was on par with pitiful last season. Giving up a 7th round pick for a Restricted Punter may cause a stir but the juice is well worth the squeeze.


2013 NFL Draft

Round 1 - DE/OLB – Damontre Moore – Texas A&M – 6’4’’ 250
- Versatility is key and Moore can play great with his hand on the ground or from a standing backer position. His zone coverage skills are underrated and if he is there at 6 he is BPA and the key to our young killer defense.


Round 2 – *Forfeited for Supplemental Draft Pick Josh Gordon – 6’3’’ 225
- I’d say we got our money’s worth for this pick.


***Trade*** Colt McCoy and 2012 3rd round and 7th round picks to the Green Bay Packers for Round 2 pick #58


Round 2 – WR - Quinton Patton - Louisiana Tech - 6’2’’ 195
- Senior Bowl Stud has the makings to solidify our young WR core that is one playmaker short of complete,


Round 3 - *Traded to Green Bay

Round 4 – CB/S - Tyrann Mathieu – Former LSU - 5’9’’ 180
- Name a 4th round pick with this kind of playmaking skill…that’s right. I’ll take a risk on the Honey Badger with strict contract stipulations.


Round 5 – S - D.J. Swearinger – South Carolina – 6’ 210
- AKA Jungle Boi, this kid has a nose for the ball and an attitude that is infectious on the field. Can be played at CB or Safety.


Fun to watch! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zzy5UTdmWY

Round 6 – FB – Zack Boron – The Ohio State University – 6’1’’ 245
- Best blocking FB in the draft - Marecic is one of the worst FBs I've ever seen.


Round 7 – *Forfeited for - Britton Colquitt – 6’3’’ 205

Round 7 - *From Eagles for David Sims – Traded to Green Bay

Round 7 – (Compensatory) –LS - P.J. Mangieri – Nebraska – 6’4’’ 240
Never had a bad snap on special teams and can also play Guard - Go ahead blast me for taking a Long Snapper! It’s a 7th round compensatory pick…come on man!


53 Man Depth Chart
QB – Weeden/Lewis/Anderson
RB – Richardson/Jackson/Hardesty
FB – Boren*
WR – Little/Patton*/Norwood
WR – Gordon/Benjamin/Cribbs
TE - Watson/Cameron
LT – Thomas/Cousins
LG – Vasquez/Pinkston
C – Mack/Greco
RG – Lauvao/Mangieri*
RT – Schwartz/Miller

Base 4-3
LE – Sheared/Parker
DT – Taylor/Hughes
DT – Rubin/Winn
RE – Moore*/Groves
WLB – Gocong/Maiava/Acho
MLB – Jackson/Michael-Johnson
SLB – Fort/Carder
CB – Haden/Skrine/Mathieu*
CB – Rogers-Cromartie/Wade
FS – Byrd/Hagg
SS – Ward/Swearinger*

Hybrid 3-4 Look
LOLB – Gocong
5DE – Sheared
NT – Rubin/Winn
3DE – Taylor
MLB – Jackson
MLB – Fort
ROLB – Moore*
CB – Haden
CB – Rogers-Cromartie
FS – Byrd
SS – Ward

K – Dawson
P – Colquitt
KR /PR – Cribbs
LS – Mangieri*

2014 Biggest needs: TE

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are some pretty favorable numbers in terms of contract money. I think a lot of those guys you listed rake in a good deal more. However, I'm a huge fan of most of those acquisitions.

Unfortunately, the draft falls flat for me. We're going to need to pick up some more depth than that. Also, the players you have us taking that I do like (Moore,Swearinger) probably don't last that long.

Good stab, I just don't think it's in the realm of possibility or reality.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude I love your Mock Draft! You killed the Draft! I see some good players coming towards us. Just don't care to much about the free agent. Like Derek Anderson, not a big fan on him. Rather have a runner type of QB that can gain us some yards with his feet instead throwing a turnover with his arm. We have a QB that has a arm. Now we need a QB with speed and can make passes down the field and short passes. We need a long term goal player.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they make a trade up like that, it's going to be for a TE not a WR.

Other than that, I really like it. Especially the "juice is worth the squeeze" line.
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let Cribbs walk! the only thing he does is return kicks. I rather get a back up WR or back RB to become a returner. Allow them to develop at their other positions and its allows them to contribute to the team.

I would love to see Ben be a return, to me he is more dangerous because he actually has homerun speed.

Cribbs has worn out his stay in Cleveland. He is a great returner but he never developed into nothing else. He has played with 3 different coaches and he could do nothing under any of them. Time to give his roster spot to a player who can develop into an all around playmaker if its on offense or defense
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditchdigger wrote:
If they make a trade up like that, it's going to be for a TE not a WR.

Other than that, I really like it. Especially the "juice is worth the squeeze" line.


I really want us to grab Zach Eifert but there is no scenario that works in our favor.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butter273 wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
If they make a trade up like that, it's going to be for a TE not a WR.

Other than that, I really like it. Especially the "juice is worth the squeeze" line.


I really want us to grab Zach Eifert but there is no scenario that works in our favor.



Did you mean Zach ertz??
Or Tyler eifert??

You have eifert pictured
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
let Cribbs walk! the only thing he does is return kicks. I rather get a back up WR or back RB to become a returner. Allow them to develop at their other positions and its allows them to contribute to the team.

I would love to see Ben be a return, to me he is more dangerous because he actually has homerun speed.

Cribbs has worn out his stay in Cleveland. He is a great returner but he never developed into nothing else. He has played with 3 different coaches and he could do nothing under any of them. Time to give his roster spot to a player who can develop into an all around playmaker if its on offense or defense


Yeah I agree, we need a good back up then a good " KR " We already had Ben at " KR " & Skrine at " KR "
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mas_atc wrote:
Butter273 wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
If they make a trade up like that, it's going to be for a TE not a WR.

Other than that, I really like it. Especially the "juice is worth the squeeze" line.


I really want us to grab Zach Eifert but there is no scenario that works in our favor.



Did you mean Zach ertz??
Or Tyler eifert??

You have eifert pictured


Tyler Eifert - Sorry my brain is dead, I just had a my first child on Sunday and did this mock on 2 hours of sleep.

I understand that many prospects may not be there but there are plenty of people I've wanted to draft that fell like crazy. Such as: Arian Foster, Rashad Jennings, etc.

You can say Moore will not be there at 6 but wity players like Dequan Bowers and Nick Fairley that fall every year...you never know.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butter273 wrote:

You can say Moore will not be there at 6 but wity players like Dequan Bowers and Nick Fairley that fall every year...you never know.


Bowers fell because of injury and Fairley because of immaturity issues, I can see a similar slide for Jones of UGA, but not Damontre Moore. He'll go top three most assuredly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butter273 wrote:
mas_atc wrote:
Butter273 wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
If they make a trade up like that, it's going to be for a TE not a WR.

Other than that, I really like it. Especially the "juice is worth the squeeze" line.


I really want us to grab Zach Eifert but there is no scenario that works in our favor.



Did you mean Zach ertz??
Or Tyler eifert??

You have eifert pictured


Tyler Eifert - Sorry my brain is dead, I just had a my first child on Sunday and did this mock on 2 hours of sleep.

I understand that many prospects may not be there but there are plenty of people I've wanted to draft that fell like crazy. Such as: Arian Foster, Rashad Jennings, etc.

You can say Moore will not be there at 6 but wity players like Dequan Bowers and Nick Fairley that fall every year...you never know.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DawgSoldier wrote:
Butter273 wrote:
mas_atc wrote:
Butter273 wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
If they make a trade up like that, it's going to be for a TE not a WR.

Other than that, I really like it. Especially the "juice is worth the squeeze" line.


I really want us to grab Zach Eifert but there is no scenario that works in our favor.



Did you mean Zach ertz??
Or Tyler eifert??

You have eifert pictured


Tyler Eifert - Sorry my brain is dead, I just had a my first child on Sunday and did this mock on 2 hours of sleep.

I understand that many prospects may not be there but there are plenty of people I've wanted to draft that fell like crazy. Such as: Arian Foster, Rashad Jennings, etc.

You can say Moore will not be there at 6 but wity players like Dequan Bowers and Nick Fairley that fall every year...you never know.



Congratulations!


Ditto that.

Good luck getting a decent night's sleep for the next two or three years. I woke up last night at 3am with my 2 year-old slapping me in the face and demanding a bottle of milk. Good times.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditchdigger wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Butter273 wrote:
mas_atc wrote:
Butter273 wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
If they make a trade up like that, it's going to be for a TE not a WR.

Other than that, I really like it. Especially the "juice is worth the squeeze" line.


I really want us to grab Zach Eifert but there is no scenario that works in our favor.



Did you mean Zach ertz??
Or Tyler eifert??

You have eifert pictured


Tyler Eifert - Sorry my brain is dead, I just had a my first child on Sunday and did this mock on 2 hours of sleep.

I understand that many prospects may not be there but there are plenty of people I've wanted to draft that fell like crazy. Such as: Arian Foster, Rashad Jennings, etc.

You can say Moore will not be there at 6 but wity players like Dequan Bowers and Nick Fairley that fall every year...you never know.



Congratulations!


Ditto that.

Good luck getting a decent night's sleep for the next two or three years. I woke up last night at 3am with my 2 year-old slapping me in the face and demanding a bottle of milk. Good times.


Congrats!

Kids change everything.... And I mean EVERYTHING.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Boom or Bust Mock 2013 Reply with quote

Butter273 wrote:
We are young but we are nor rebuilding. If you build it...they will come.

Resign

PR – Josh Cribbs – 3 year 10 million – 2013 cap hit: 1.5 million
- The heart and soul of the Cleveland Browns?


K – Phil Dawson – 3 year 7.5 million – 2013 cap hit: 2 million
- Can you argue against his production?


TE – Ben Watson– 2 year 7.5 million – 2013 cap hit: 1.5 million
- He might be on his way out but I think he's still got some gas in the tank.


Extend
C – Alex Mack – 5 Year 36 Million – 2013 cap hit: 2.5 million
- Pivotal to keep Mack on this line for years to come.


SS – TJ Ward – 4 year 12.5 million – 2013 cap hit: 3 million
- Locking up TJ would be a big hit! (See what I did there?)


High Priced Free Agents (10 Million + a year)
***NONE***

Mid-Level Free Agents (3-9 Million a year)
OG - Louis Vasquez – SD – 5 Year 20 Million – 2013 cap hit: 5 Million
- Norv Turner will use Vasquez to plug the major whole in the left side of the O-Line.


CB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie – PHI – 4 Year 20 Million – 2013 cap hit: 5 Million
- Horton knows what DRC can do and Banner will lure him to Cleveland.


FS - Jairus Byrd – BUF – 4 Year 20 Million – 2013 cap hit: 4 million
- While Chip Kelley may try and lure the Byrd man into Philly we deploy Jarius’s college roommate Mr. TJ Ward to seal the deal.


Low End Rotational Free Agents (Under 3 Million a year)
OLB - Quentin Groves – ARZ – 3 year 5 Million – 2013 cap hit: 1.5 Million
- Horton has helped train this once prominent pass rusher into a pretty decent rotational player in Arizona and will rally to bring him in to play the same role.


QB – Derek Anderson – CAR – 2 Year 2 Million – 2015 cap hit: 1 Million
- I don’t want him back but Colt is on his way out and Chud has a crush on him.


Restricted Free Agents
P - Britton Colquitt – DEN – (RFA)
- Big boots run in the Colquitt family and our transition game with Hodges was on par with pitiful last season. Giving up a 7th round pick for a Restricted Punter may cause a stir but the juice is well worth the squeeze.


2013 NFL Draft

Round 1 - DE/OLB – Damontre Moore – Texas A&M – 6’4’’ 250
- Versatility is key and Moore can play great with his hand on the ground or from a standing backer position. His zone coverage skills are underrated and if he is there at 6 he is BPA and the key to our young killer defense.


Round 2 – *Forfeited for Supplemental Draft Pick Josh Gordon – 6’3’’ 225
- I’d say we got our money’s worth for this pick.


***Trade*** Colt McCoy and 2012 3rd round and 7th round picks to the Green Bay Packers for Round 2 pick #58


Round 2 – WR - Quinton Patton - Louisiana Tech - 6’2’’ 195
- Senior Bowl Stud has the makings to solidify our young WR core that is one playmaker short of complete,


Round 3 - *Traded to Green Bay

Round 4 – CB/S - Tyrann Mathieu – Former LSU - 5’9’’ 180
- Name a 4th round pick with this kind of playmaking skill…that’s right. I’ll take a risk on the Honey Badger with strict contract stipulations.


Round 5 – S - D.J. Swearinger – South Carolina – 6’ 210
- AKA Jungle Boi, this kid has a nose for the ball and an attitude that is infectious on the field. Can be played at CB or Safety.


Fun to watch! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zzy5UTdmWY

Round 6 – FB – Zack Boron – The Ohio State University – 6’1’’ 245
- Best blocking FB in the draft - Marecic is one of the worst FBs I've ever seen.


Round 7 – *Forfeited for - Britton Colquitt – 6’3’’ 205

Round 7 - *From Eagles for David Sims – Traded to Green Bay

Round 7 – (Compensatory) –LS - P.J. Mangieri – Nebraska – 6’4’’ 240
Never had a bad snap on special teams and can also play Guard - Go ahead blast me for taking a Long Snapper! It’s a 7th round compensatory pick…come on man!


53 Man Depth Chart
QB – Weeden/Lewis/Anderson
RB – Richardson/Jackson/Hardesty
FB – Boren*
WR – Little/Patton*/Norwood
WR – Gordon/Benjamin/Cribbs
TE - Watson/Cameron
LT – Thomas/Cousins
LG – Vasquez/Pinkston
C – Mack/Greco
RG – Lauvao/Mangieri*
RT – Schwartz/Miller

Base 4-3
LE – Sheared/Parker
DT – Taylor/Hughes
DT – Rubin/Winn
RE – Moore*/Groves
WLB – Gocong/Maiava/Acho
MLB – Jackson/Michael-Johnson
SLB – Fort/Carder
CB – Haden/Skrine/Mathieu*
CB – Rogers-Cromartie/Wade
FS – Byrd/Hagg
SS – Ward/Swearinger*

Hybrid 3-4 Look
LOLB – Gocong
5DE – Sheared
NT – Rubin/Winn
3DE – Taylor
MLB – Jackson
MLB – Fort
ROLB – Moore*
CB – Haden
CB – Rogers-Cromartie
FS – Byrd
SS – Ward

K – Dawson
P – Colquitt
KR /PR – Cribbs
LS – Mangieri*

2014 Biggest needs: TE

Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mas_atc wrote:
Butter273 wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
If they make a trade up like that, it's going to be for a TE not a WR.

Other than that, I really like it. Especially the "juice is worth the squeeze" line.


I really want us to grab Zach Eifert but there is no scenario that works in our favor.



Did you mean Zach ertz??
Or Tyler eifert??

You have eifert pictured


Hahaha.

I still don't like Anderson being here.
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