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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is more on the story.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21593952/2013-senior-bowl-fluker-glennon-highlight-weigh-in-surprises

I'm glad to read this:

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Fluker, who gained Senior Bowl eligibility thanks to graduating early...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fluker at 6047 is shocking. I thought he was at least 6'7".
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TVScout wrote:
Fluker at 6047 is shocking. I thought he was at least 6'7".


He looked taller on TV. Musta been wearing some really long cleats. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you guys think about Menelik Watson out of Florida State?

Very raw, but 4th rounder? Higher?


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He's old and inexperienced - albeit brimming with potential.


He's 24yrs old (couple years older than standard prospect) which is a few years younger than Watkins when he came out. Potential is higher but much more raw. What do you think of his prospect status? 5th round?
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I've been watching a bunch of tape on Cornellius "Tank" Carradine DE from FSU. A former JuCo guy who fought his way into a scholarship at FSU only to tear his ACL in November. I think this is a guy that we will grade a 1st round talent and possibly select for a redshirt 2013 season (ala Carter & Lee). He has great size at 6'5" 265 with a frame that can add another 10-15 pounds. At times he look borderline unblockable and was constantly finding his way to the QB. The best quality I saw in him was his discipline against the read option. This has to be a quality we look for in a DE with RG3 and Chip Kelly in the division, and Wilson and Kapernick in the conference. I know we have a ton of holes to fill but I wouldn't be mad at selecting this guy.
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Kellen Davis, bears large tight end, is a candidate for release this offseason. He came in for a visit last year, we offered him a deal, and he went with chicago. If i remember right he was the only free agent that came in for a visit and didnt sign. Think maybe our coaching staff still likes him? Maybe Marinelli can help them decide that one.
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Kellen Davis, bears large tight end, is a candidate for release this offseason. He came in for a visit last year, we offered him a deal, and he went with chicago. If i remember right he was the only free agent that came in for a visit and didnt sign. Think maybe our coaching staff still likes him? Maybe Marinelli can help them decide that one.


I would be THRILLED by this.
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So I have been hitting the tape hard today. I really like Vaccaro, I believe he is the perfect Safety for our offense. I also think Richardson is going to bust if taken in the 1st round. He struggles to stand up to the POA and looks to need to build his strength.
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I'm also warming up to Vaccaro, I think he's just as good as Barron was if not better. The draft's depth at S and the team's weaknesses in the trenches make me pause, however.
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Im thinking we have a high chance of taking TJ Macdonald in the 2nd. He knows Kiffin's scheme and he was his favorite player.


Kenny's stock dropped a lil because they said he opted out of the senior bowl.
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Im thinking we have a high chance of taking TJ Macdonald in the 2nd. He knows Kiffin's scheme and he was his favorite player.


Kenny's stock dropped a lil because they said he opted out of the senior bowl.

Scouts get disappointed players don't go to the Senior Bowl, they don't drop them on their rankings because of it. It is like when the media says someone's stock soared because of the combine. That isn't true unless it proves something different than what people see on tape in a good way.
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I'm also warming up to Vaccaro, I think he's just as good as Barron was if not better. The draft's depth at S and the team's weaknesses in the trenches make me pause, however.


The trenches are the deepest positions in the draft this year IMO.

As for Vacarro, I just don't see the 1st round talent that others see I guess. He looks willing to tackle but seems to go for the big hit and is out of control when he tackles. For some reason when I watch him, I just come away saying, "Meh." I wouldn't take him in the 1st. In fact, the only safety I'd take in the first is Elam at this point.
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Datone Jones might be somebody to consider in the 2nd if we aren't sure about Crawford playing LDE.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my DT's ranking is starting to look like this...

1. Star Lotulelei
2. Sharrif Floyd
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canadaluvsdalla wrote:
Im thinking we have a high chance of taking TJ Macdonald in the 2nd. He knows Kiffin's scheme and he was his favorite player.


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According to Pro Football Weekly's Nolan Nawrocki, USC senior S T.J. McDonald has "warranted some free-agent grades from veteran NFL evaluators," with poor play this season.

Nawrocki states that McDonald is "noticeably taking too many bad angles, getting erased on the second level and gingerly stepping up in run support" on film this season and last. The chances that McDonald goes undrafted are slim, and Nawrocki even admits that, but McDonald has not taken the next step as many predicted prior to the season. Mon, Nov 5, 2012 02:50:00 PM


http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/cfb/131277/tj-mcdonald

I haven't watched any tape on the guy yet, but I've also heard some bad things from USC fans. It's a logical fit for him to go to Kiffin's team, but surely 2nd round is too high for him.

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Kenny's stock dropped a lil because they said he opted out of the senior bowl.


Interesting, could be a variety of factors, though. Wouldn't put much stock into it.

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matt79511 wrote:
I'm also warming up to Vaccaro, I think he's just as good as Barron was if not better. The draft's depth at S and the team's weaknesses in the trenches make me pause, however.


The trenches are the deepest positions in the draft this year IMO.

As for Vacarro, I just don't see the 1st round talent that others see I guess. He looks willing to tackle but seems to go for the big hit and is out of control when he tackles. For some reason when I watch him, I just come away saying, "Meh." I wouldn't take him in the 1st. In fact, the only safety I'd take in the first is Elam at this point.


All valid, I just think there's some serious potential for him in coverage- good hips, good ball skills, sound in man and zone coverage, fast. Could be the center-fielder type that we've been dying for. I can see the run-support concerns, but I think he's got good closing speed, takes good angles, and is at least willing to tackle, all of which would indicate that he can develop on that end.
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