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101Raider
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| DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | maybe as stop gaps. All those guys have their issues and have gained and lost starting gigs. We need to draft a bona fide NT and raise him in our system. That will help the long term financial health of our cap too. |
+1 I think we're in luck in that there's more big-bodied NTs throughout the draft than I can rememeber. |
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BigD1123
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| So when does free agency actually start this year? |
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DOCLEW 28
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| 101Raider wrote: | | DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | maybe as stop gaps. All those guys have their issues and have gained and lost starting gigs. We need to draft a bona fide NT and raise him in our system. That will help the long term financial health of our cap too. |
+1 I think we're in luck in that there's more big-bodied NTs throughout the draft than I can rememeber. |
This year is actually a good one for it:
Johnathan Hankins, 6-3, 335, Ohio State
Star Lotulelei, 6-3, 320, Utah
Kawann Short, 6-3, 310, Purdue
John Jenkins, 6-3, 350, Georgia
Kwame Geathers, 6-5, 345, Georgia
Jesse Williams, 6-3, 320, Alabama
Sylvester Williams, 6-2, 315, North Carolina
Akeem Spence, 6-1, 305, Illinois
Brandon Williams, 6-2, 325, Missouri Southern
Montori Hughes, 6-3, 325, Tennessee-Martin
Dave Kruger, 6-4, 295, Utah
Sheldon Richardson, 6-3, 295, Missouri
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | 101Raider wrote: | | DOCLEW 28 wrote: | | maybe as stop gaps. All those guys have their issues and have gained and lost starting gigs. We need to draft a bona fide NT and raise him in our system. That will help the long term financial health of our cap too. |
+1 I think we're in luck in that there's more big-bodied NTs throughout the draft than I can rememeber. |
This year is actually a good one for it:
Johnathan Hankins, 6-3, 335, Ohio State
Star Lotulelei, 6-3, 320, Utah
Kawann Short, 6-3, 310, Purdue
John Jenkins, 6-3, 350, Georgia
Kwame Geathers, 6-5, 345, Georgia
Jesse Williams, 6-3, 320, Alabama
Sylvester Williams, 6-2, 315, North Carolina
Akeem Spence, 6-1, 305, Illinois
Brandon Williams, 6-2, 325, Missouri Southern
Montori Hughes, 6-3, 325, Tennessee-Martin
Dave Kruger, 6-4, 295, Utah
Sheldon Richardson, 6-3, 295, Missouri |
Cory Grissom, 6-2, 316, South Florida
Also, i remember reading about Cary Williams as a potential FA in here.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/21544053/nfl-today-arians-whisenhunt-pace-coach-updates-kelly-staying-at-nd
| Quote: | | Similarly, starting cornerback Cary Williams, who the team also has worries about off the field, turned down a three-year, $15-million offer from the Ravens this season, sources said, and Baltimore might not go much higher than that to retain him. Williams has told teammates that he thinks he might be worth $8 million-$10 million a year, sources said. With Baltimore expecting top corner Lardarius Webb back from knee surgery and hopeful that recent first-round pick Jimmy Smith blossoms, going that high for Williams is highly unlikely. |
That guy isn't worth that much.
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Dreadymatt
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| sure hope RM cheers us up with some decent signings (I'm not optimistic though) |
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Chali21
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| BigD1123 wrote: | | So when does free agency actually start this year? |
It usually starts in march if I'm not mistaken. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| oakdb36 wrote: |
That guy isn't worth that much. |
LOL no CB is worth that much. What a joke.
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DOCLEW 28
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Really. If he were worth that much then his current team would have locked him up by now. The face that they let him get to this point tells me that they don't even think he is worth what he may try to demand. Good luck with that.
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agarcia34
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Raiders need to be calling Michael Johnson and Cliff Avril right when FA starts. Getting one of them would give Oakland so much more flexibility. They need to spend big on a pass rusher.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| agarcia34 wrote: | | Raiders need to be calling Michael Johnson and Cliff Avril right when FA starts. Getting one of them would give Oakland so much more flexibility. They need to spend big on a pass rusher. |
No they don't. They need to spend smartly. If those players want fair value, then fine. If not, then on to the next one.
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TiberiusRising
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The only two big name FA I would be interested in are J. Byrd and J. Long. I doubt either will happen.
Looking at guys like L. McKelvin that have starting experience and fill multiple roles for value as more likley canidates.
Only edge Avril has is that he was coached by our DL coach previously. Financially though doesnt make sense. |
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RaiderX
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| Darkness wrote: | | agarcia34 wrote: | | Raiders need to be calling Michael Johnson and Cliff Avril right when FA starts. Getting one of them would give Oakland so much more flexibility. They need to spend big on a pass rusher. |
No they don't. They need to spend smartly. If those players want fair value, then fine. If not, then on to the next one. |
+1. Look where that got Buffalo.
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DOCLEW 28
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| agarcia34 wrote: | | Raiders need to be calling Michael Johnson and Cliff Avril right when FA starts. Getting one of them would give Oakland so much more flexibility. They need to spend big on a pass rusher. |
I agree. I wanted Johnson in the draft. It was said that Al Davis was pissed that he was picked one spot ahead of us in the 3rd round that year. We had to "settle" for Shaughnessey on the next pick. It would be a coup if we could pry him away from cincy with a deal.
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Interested to see what happens to Sebastian Vollmer. He's in a similiar situation to what Veldheer would be in if we drafted a LT. Pats won't take him to play RT and he'll get LT money via free agency most likely.
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| Raidin wrote: | | Interested to see what happens to Sebastian Vollmer. He's in a similiar situation to what Veldheer would be in if we drafted a LT. Pats won't take him to play RT and he'll get LT money via free agency most likely. |
I would love Vollmer as a RT. Every mock I did that season had us taking him LOL. I thought he would be better than he is now but that's not implying he's a scrub by any means.
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not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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