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CBears019 
Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 14771 Location: Iowa City, IA
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject: West Coast Offense |
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With the hiring of Trestman there is a lot of talk about him bringing the WCO to Chicago.
What exactly is the WCO and how does it differ from offenses we've run in the past?
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Superman(DH23) 
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 16419 Location: Abdi on the sick sig
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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AZ will love this, the WCO utilizes shorter precise routes, and timing throws. A lot of Slants, posts, skinny posts, digs. Rollouts, moving pockets, and the RB is big target in the WCO as well, as the outlet and screen are used as somewhat of a replacement for the power 60 (best run play for the Bears this year)
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Madmike90 
Joined: 25 Jan 2009 Posts: 18577 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| The WCO is more about horizontal short passing that gets the ball out of the QBs hand quickly and relies on the receivers to gain YAC…more pass oriented than run but when teams start to sell out on the pass there are opportunities for big gains on the ground…have to get the Oline right to run it correctly. |
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WindyCity 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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This is my breakdown of what Trestman will do on offence. Keep in mind I played on the OL and did not spend nearly enough time with the QBs to really break it down.
Make the Field BIG
I believe that Trestman will spread the field vertically and horizontally to maximize space and allow our big WRS to move. On most plays there will be routes to both sidelines and there will be a route moving deep forcing the defence to spread and create seams or holes.
You will hear about creating levels and gaps.
Provide Options
Every route will be working with other routes to provide built in options to the QB based on what they read. The design of the routes will be to specifically open up someone or an area that will be attacked. The QB will have options to throw too that are working in unison.
Get the Ball to the WR Quickly
In Montreal we had big WRs and we got the ball to them quickly and asked them to make plays with it, which I think fits the Bears personnel very well. This is the heart of the west coast offence and allows the QB to be held upright.
The Running Back is a Passing Weapon
The RBs that we have [Whitikar, Cobourne and Carter] all had a number of receptions and were consistently released or check released into patterns to force defenders to cover them. They also worked into a number of route combinations and got the ball a lot.
Protection is KING
The system is very heavy on protection and protection concepts. The QB is to be preotected by players and scheme and the timing and rhythem cannot be disrupted. _________________
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DaMike
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I really like this for our offensive players. We have the WRs and RB to succeed. Also this will help our OTs. |
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AZBearsFan 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | AZ will love this, the WCO utilizes shorter precise routes, and timing throws. A lot of Slants, posts, skinny posts, digs. Rollouts, moving pockets, and the RB is big target in the WCO as well, as the outlet and screen are used as somewhat of a replacement for the power 60 (best run play for the Bears this year) |
I do like it. _________________
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IronMike84 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think the WCO may be a better fit than a Coryell variant. There has been a lot of criticism on Cutler not getting the ball out quick enough. WCO hopefully will remedy that, as well as help to get the offense into a rhythm with some short completions. Forte should involved in the passing game once again and Marshall should also do well at the X spot. _________________
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ConVict90 
Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 1889 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Madmike90 wrote: | | The WCO is more about horizontal short passing that gets the ball out of the QBs hand quickly and relies on the receivers to gain YAC…more pass oriented than run but when teams start to sell out on the pass there are opportunities for big gains on the ground…have to get the Oline right to run it correctly. |
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Slaymont Harris
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| Ron Turner ran a west coast, so we've already seen Jay and Matt in a form of it (a bad form, albeit). |
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AZBearsFan 
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| Slaymont Harris wrote: | | Ron Turner ran a west coast, so we've already seen Jay and Matt in a form of it (a bad form, albeit). |
Play calling is certainly a factor in that. Jay did have a career high in TDs under Turner. _________________
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Slaymont Harris
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| AZBearsFan wrote: | | Slaymont Harris wrote: | | Ron Turner ran a west coast, so we've already seen Jay and Matt in a form of it (a bad form, albeit). |
Play calling is certainly a factor in that. Jay did have a career high in TDs under Turner. |
I'm including the playcalling in there, which is a huge component obviously. I was less impressed with the 27 TDs as I was dismayed by the 26 picks. |
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JPeppers90 
Joined: 08 Jan 2011 Posts: 763 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Quick drop backs and relying on the receivers to make plays (YAC yards) really excite me because that is a major strength of all 3 of BMarsh, Alshon, Earl. _________________
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Sugashane 
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Slaymont Harris wrote: | | AZBearsFan wrote: | | Slaymont Harris wrote: | | Ron Turner ran a west coast, so we've already seen Jay and Matt in a form of it (a bad form, albeit). |
Play calling is certainly a factor in that. Jay did have a career high in TDs under Turner. |
I'm including the playcalling in there, which is a huge component obviously. I was less impressed with the 27 TDs as I was dismayed by the 26 picks. |
Cutler also did not have talent to work with. His best receiving option was Forte and Olsen, and even then they had a terrible line. Plus Jay tried to force the ball much more than he has the last few years. While playing with poor receivers sucks, it does help to realize that not every WR is going to be able to make a play on the ball like Marshall does. It was a very rough learning experience for him, but I doubt it would happen again, especially considering the boost of talent in comparison. |
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