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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iPwn wrote:
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id prefer to abstain from drafting a QB this year and get johnny manziel next year. dude will be a superstar in the NFL
He can't come out until 2015.

He can come out next year, but I doubt he does.
Isn't he a true freshman?


Redshirted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iPwn wrote:
Jaguarfan wrote:
iPwn wrote:
mijags wrote:
id prefer to abstain from drafting a QB this year and get johnny manziel next year. dude will be a superstar in the NFL
He can't come out until 2015.

He can come out next year, but I doubt he does.
Isn't he a true freshman?


Redshirt.

But still. Like I have said before, it is in his best interest to say through his senior year.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bad then. Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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id prefer to abstain from drafting a QB this year and get johnny manziel next year. dude will be a superstar in the NFL


Or we could just 'settle' for Teddy Bridgewater next year. Cool I'd be content with that. Wink
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Or we could just wait a few years and draft Luke Del Rio
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outstanding plan.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was comparing Star to Alualu.
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I was comparing Star to Alualu.


The point was that that's a bad comparison Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more i think about it, the more i manage to convince myself that Arizona at #7 might be a viable trade back opportunity. If not for Geno/Wilson, more likely for Joeckel. Especially with the news of Lewan not coming out.

Wouldn't expect a huge return on it necessarily, but i have to think that adds some pressure to grab that top-end LT in Joeckel before someone else does (Eagles, Raiders, Lions, etc.).

And imo #7 would be a good spot to sit if we can pick up some extra lil somethin' somethin' on the side (extra picks). Seems like a good chance one of the 'top guys' falls into our laps there if that were to happen.

But then again, i could just be deluding myself with wishful thinking. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's more likely that someone trades up to #6 to jump Arizona for Joeckel than it is that Arizona trades up to #2 for Joeckel.
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I guess it depends how serious other teams feel a team like Philly is about taking Joeckel. If he's a legit candidate for Philly at #4, you'd have to leapfrog them which puts you squarely in the market of Jacksonville and Oakland...or you risk getting left out in the cold. For a team a bit later where a guy like Fisher or even Lane Johnson might be reasonable value, i'm not sure it's such an issue. But for a team like Arizona sitting at #7...Kinda no man's land as far as finding a top end OT.

But it does hinge a lot on thinking Philly could opt to go with Joeckel. Otherwise i think you're right...jumping up to #6 just ahead of Arizona does make more sense.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tugboat wrote:
I guess it depends how serious other teams feel a team like Philly is about taking Joeckel. If he's a legit candidate for Philly at #4, you'd have to leapfrog them which puts you squarely in the market of Jacksonville and Oakland...or you risk getting left out in the cold. For a team a bit later where a guy like Fisher or even Lane Johnson might be reasonable value, i'm not sure it's such an issue. But for a team like Arizona sitting at #7...Kinda no man's land as far as finding a top end OT.

But it does hinge a lot on thinking Philly could opt to go with Joeckel. Otherwise i think you're right...jumping up to #6 just ahead of Arizona does make more sense.


If they were afraid of Philadelphia, they'd take the lesser deal the Raiders may ask for due to them not having as many picks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
Tugboat wrote:
I guess it depends how serious other teams feel a team like Philly is about taking Joeckel. If he's a legit candidate for Philly at #4, you'd have to leapfrog them which puts you squarely in the market of Jacksonville and Oakland...or you risk getting left out in the cold. For a team a bit later where a guy like Fisher or even Lane Johnson might be reasonable value, i'm not sure it's such an issue. But for a team like Arizona sitting at #7...Kinda no man's land as far as finding a top end OT.

But it does hinge a lot on thinking Philly could opt to go with Joeckel. Otherwise i think you're right...jumping up to #6 just ahead of Arizona does make more sense.


If they were afraid of Philadelphia, they'd take the lesser deal the Raiders may ask for due to them not having as many picks.


It would most likely cost a 1st and a 2nd to jump that high, especially if caldwell feels there is not a guy he likes in that spot.

Past history suggests that caldwell does not like to trade down. However, that was under dimitroff.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000126758/article/kansas-city-chiefs-plan-to-take-best-player-available-with-no-1-pick?campaign=Twitter_atl

Best scenario in my opinion. Either we get our qb or we get a trade down.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every team is looking to trade down because of the uncertainty at the top of the draft. Jags won't find a partner, as Reggie McKenzie will be opened to doing business the selection later. The choice to me is BPA (Joeckel) or a pass rusher.

I'd personally take Barkevious Mingo, but Caldwell will want a safe pick to start his regime.
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