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BooyaCS


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
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Tressel's offense makes Pat Shurmur look like an innovator and aggressive.


Tress always played to his players strengths, murmur nit so much


Actually he never did on offense. It was way too predictible.

Run left for 3 yards. Run Right for 2 yards. Incomplete pass Punt...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BooyaCS wrote:
buno67 wrote:
BooyaCS wrote:
Tressel's offense makes Pat Shurmur look like an innovator and aggressive.


Tress always played to his players strengths, murmur nit so much


Actually he never did on offense. It was way too predictible.

Run left for 3 yards. Run Right for 2 yards. Incomplete pass Punt...


Not that Pryor was all world or anything, but Tressel did a pretty sub-par job of utilizing his skillset.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BooyaCS wrote:
buno67 wrote:
BooyaCS wrote:
Tressel's offense makes Pat Shurmur look like an innovator and aggressive.


Tress always played to his players strengths, murmur nit so much


Actually he never did on offense. It was way too predictible.

Run left for 3 yards. Run Right for 2 yards. Incomplete pass Punt...


oh yeah, thats exactly how his offense was in 2006...that must of been the reason Troy Smith won the Heisman.

Why do anything else when opposing teams really cant stop you.
2001- 190yards D- 24th
2002- 191yards D- 2nd
2003- 126yards D- 16th
2004- 145yards D- 20th
2005- 196yards D- 5th
2006- 169yards D- 5th
2007- 196yards D- 1st
2008- 192yards D- 6th
2009- 195yards D- 5th
2010- 220yards D- 5th

You knew tressel was going to run the ball and kill you with defense, were you going to stop it? out of 10 years, he basically avg 170rushing yards for 8 of them and only had one season where his defense wasnt in the top 20 for points allowed and that only season came in his first year in the program. ppl complain about his offense but it won. He went 106-22. That is damn good. Also 2003 was the only year his avg yard per carry wasnt over 3yards. If your running the ball and your gaining 4-5yards a pop why would you just start throwing the ball. If your having success running the ball, dont leave it. We all know Shurmur would give up on the run at the nearest chance he had

When Tress saw he had the talent he would make adjustments. when he had Troy Smith at QB he ran more out of the Shotgun for the sake of his QB, used a more spread offense and Smith was amazing. When Beanie Wells was healthy he would kill teams with the Boeckman play action but when he lost his ability to playaction he lost his bread and butter, Tress knew that and he switched QBs. Every year Pryor was the QB his playbook got different and different as pryors talents develop. When Pryor was a freshmen we were a straight power football team that used some option. When Pryor was a junior you saw OSU using the read option, using the pistol, and etc.

Tressel never tried to get fancy. Tressels idea of a trick play was the play action.

The one reason I wouldnt mind tress is I believe players would respect him. If you cant get your players respect the coach has already lost the battle. IMO Shurmur never had the respect of all his players. I wouldnt Mine seeing the browns and orange sweeter vest but I would only like it if he had a great coaching staff around him to help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ether wrote:
BooyaCS wrote:
buno67 wrote:
BooyaCS wrote:
Tressel's offense makes Pat Shurmur look like an innovator and aggressive.


Tress always played to his players strengths, murmur nit so much


Actually he never did on offense. It was way too predictible.

Run left for 3 yards. Run Right for 2 yards. Incomplete pass Punt...


Not that Pryor was all world or anything, but Tressel did a pretty sub-par job of utilizing his skillset.


I think that was more on Pryor. I think Pryor was more concerned about the NFL than college. He said he went to OSU because they ran a pro style offense. I think Pryor wanted to become a drop back passer. early on it didnt work but when Tress tried it for him but Tressel did transform his offense for his Skill sets. Pryor in his junior year ran a lot of shotgun, a lot of read options, a lot of keepers, and etc. I think it was all gonna pay off his senior year but we never got a chance to see what it would of been like. Thats one thing I hate about the NCAA, they robbed OSU of potentially having one hell of a special season last year. Every year at OSU he Pryor was getting better and better. I think Pryors senior year he would of threw for 3,000yards and maybe came close to 1000yards rushing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we made this hire (puke) we better un ban ITWT.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe this US being debated. I love tress, but hell no .
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
IMO Shurmur never had the respect of all his players


They played awfully hard and close for a guy they didn't respect.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
buno67 wrote:
IMO Shurmur never had the respect of all his players


They played awfully hard and close for a guy they didn't respect.


The best way I can figure that is like when a key guy on the team gets hurt, and the team rallies and plays extra hard to make up for their loss.

Well, this team know they had a reject for a head coach, and had to play extra hard to make up for that competitive disadvantage.

Shurmur is a dope man. Saw it last year after a very very small number of games. He is the first coach I ever wanted fired after his first few games. Was clear as a window he was getting fired (as he SHOULD have), even if here was no new ownership. I mean, it was just soooooo obvious he isn't a head coach.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe Tressel could come on board as our special teams coach.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bucketheadsdad wrote:
Maybe Tressel could come on board as our special teams coach.


I would honestly be down with that. Gives him a chance to prove he really believes that the most important play in football is the punt.

In all reality, he's probably waiting on Gene Smith at OSU to retire or be fired so he can take over as AD.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditchdigger wrote:
Bucketheadsdad wrote:
Maybe Tressel could come on board as our special teams coach.


I would honestly be down with that. Gives him a chance to prove he really believes that the most important play in football is the punt.

In all reality, he's probably waiting on Gene Smith at OSU to retire or be fired so he can take over as AD.


I think with the Scandal has ruined his chance at tOSU IMO. I would love to see him back at tOSU but I dont see it.

I would love to see him as the ST coach
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