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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cordarelle Patterson = Dez Bryant - 5 catching - 10 spectacular catch - 10 route running + 5 acceleration + 2 speed.

To put it eloquently.


They’re playing styles not similar at all.

And Dez was much more of a natural, refined receiver coming out of college.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawksman81 wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
Cordarelle Patterson = Dez Bryant - 5 catching - 10 spectacular catch - 10 route running + 5 acceleration + 2 speed.

To put it eloquently.


They’re playing styles not similar at all.

And Dez was much more of a natural, refined receiver coming out of college.


Alot more physical as well, patterson is elusive and evades contact more often than not. Dez turns into a RB with the ball and hates going down
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawksman81 wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
Cordarelle Patterson = Dez Bryant - 5 catching - 10 spectacular catch - 10 route running + 5 acceleration + 2 speed.

To put it eloquently.


They’re playing styles not similar at all.

And Dez was much more of a natural, refined receiver coming out of college.


Alot more physical as well, patterson is elusive and evades contact more often than not. Dez turns into a RB with the ball and hates going down
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
hawksman81 wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
Cordarelle Patterson = Dez Bryant - 5 catching - 10 spectacular catch - 10 route running + 5 acceleration + 2 speed.

To put it eloquently.


They’re playing styles not similar at all.

And Dez was much more of a natural, refined receiver coming out of college.


Alot more physical as well, patterson is elusive and evades contact more often than not. Dez turns into a RB with the ball and hates going down
Except I don't think Patterson is anymore elusive than Dez, Dez just also breaks tackles.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
hawksman81 wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
Cordarelle Patterson = Dez Bryant - 5 catching - 10 spectacular catch - 10 route running + 5 acceleration + 2 speed.

To put it eloquently.


They’re playing styles not similar at all.

And Dez was much more of a natural, refined receiver coming out of college.


Alot more physical as well, patterson is elusive and evades contact more often than not. Dez turns into a RB with the ball and hates going down
Except I don't think Patterson is anymore elusive than Dez, Dez just also breaks tackles.


Patterson is more elusive then Dez, but unlike dez he will go down after you get your hands on him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New draft crush: Missouri Southern State DT Brandon Williams




Williams is 6'3" and 325 lbs and says he expects to put up Dontari Poe like numbers at the Combine which is just scary. The difference between he and Poe? When you throw on the tape you actually see a player that has NFL caliber. Williams lined up everywhere on the MSS defensive line, from 0-tech to 5-tech, and broke the school record in sacks with 27 over his career and 8.5 this past season from primarily the noseguard. That is just unheard of. He's a lot like Brandon Mebane, as he started to command triple teams at the end of the season, in which his coach responded by putting him at the 5-tech DE spot to free him up more. For such a massive kid, he's is incredibly athletic and has a great head on his shoulders to boot. He states "I'm a guy that says what I do, and does what I say". I love that. Watching his tape you see a guy with violent hands and surprisingly quick feet for his size. Look for him as a sleeper 2nd round pick.
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SaveourSonics wrote:
New draft crush: Missouri Southern State DT Brandon Williams




Williams is 6'3" and 325 lbs and says he expects to put up Dontari Poe like numbers at the Combine which is just scary. The difference between he and Poe? When you throw on the tape you actually see a player that has NFL caliber. Williams lined up everywhere on the MSS defensive line, from 0-tech to 5-tech, and broke the school record in sacks with 27 over his career and 8.5 this past season from primarily the noseguard. That is just unheard of. He's a lot like Brandon Mebane, as he started to command triple teams at the end of the season, in which his coach responded by putting him at the 5-tech DE spot to free him up more. For such a massive kid, he's is incredibly athletic and has a great head on his shoulders to boot. He states "I'm a guy that says what I do, and does what I say". I love that. Watching his tape you see a guy with violent hands and surprisingly quick feet for his size. Look for him as a sleeper 2nd round pick.


If he puts up Dontari Poe type numbers, I doubt he he falls to the 2nd. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawksman81 wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
imani wrote:
hawksman81 wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
Cordarelle Patterson = Dez Bryant - 5 catching - 10 spectacular catch - 10 route running + 5 acceleration + 2 speed.

To put it eloquently.


They’re playing styles not similar at all.

And Dez was much more of a natural, refined receiver coming out of college.


Alot more physical as well, patterson is elusive and evades contact more often than not. Dez turns into a RB with the ball and hates going down
Except I don't think Patterson is anymore elusive than Dez, Dez just also breaks tackles.


Patterson is more elusive then Dez, but unlike dez he will go down after you get your hands on him.


Agreed. That being said I would not mind adding Patterson or Robert Woods to our offense, for the right price. Especially Patterson, I think he is going to be special after refining his routes and spending time with a NFL S&C coach.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would really like Tyrann Matheau in the 3rd or 4th round. He could come her and play nickel, get shifted around in the bandit defense, and possibly return kicks. A good nickel would be huge for us.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would really like Tyrann Matheau in the 3rd or 4th round. He could come her and play nickel, get shifted around in the bandit defense, and possibly return kicks. A good nickel would be huge for us.


Wouldn't mind that at all.
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hawksman81 wrote:
I would really like Tyrann Matheau in the 3rd or 4th round. He could come her and play nickel, get shifted around in the bandit defense, and possibly return kicks. A good nickel would be huge for us.


Wouldn't mind that at all.


Would definatly like to take a chance on him. He could be a real steal!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SaveourSonics wrote:
hawksman81 wrote:
I would really like Tyrann Matheau in the 3rd or 4th round. He could come her and play nickel, get shifted around in the bandit defense, and possibly return kicks. A good nickel would be huge for us.


Wouldn't mind that at all.


Would definatly like to take a chance on him. He could be a real steal!!!


Would add even more attitude to our DB core for people to hate on. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd spend a 5th or 6th on Matheau, I would not be ok with a 4th or 3rd. Too many character concerns to spend any higher. He's very talented, but I'm not positive all of his game will translate to the NFL field.
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I wouldn't at all be surprised to see us go with Shariff Floyd in the 1st round and get Dominique Easley later in the draft as two pass rushing Florida Gators that Quinn has experience with.
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What do you guys think of Desmond Trufant to replace his older brother Marcus Trufant as our nickel CB? He is fluid, and can run with the more shifty WRs, where we got burned many times this year. He is pretty much a younger Marcus. He doesn't fit very well into our press man scheme, so he would be forced to play nickel. Thoughts?

And also, who are some CBs in this draft that could play nickel for us? I was thinking that Tyrann Mathieu is an option.
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