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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reginaldm9 wrote:
Anyone else think that Nnamdi Asomugha's release is imminent? If we snagged him imagine our defense Shocked


Nnamdi is 88th in the league with a Comp % allowed at 66.7%.

106th in the NFL with a 15.9 YPC avg

tied for 12th most TD's allowed with 5 TD's.

109th in the league with a QBR against of 120.6 (only 4 players worse)


He doesn't fit their system at all. His stats were top 10 in the league a few years ago. Right now, he sucks alot of stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
Reginaldm9 wrote:
Anyone else think that Nnamdi Asomugha's release is imminent? If we snagged him imagine our defense Shocked


Sheldon Brown played better than Nnamdi Ashomugha this year so I don't see the improvement.

Thanks bulldog. Goldson wasn't as impressive as I would have expected but still a lot better than what we have.


Goldson's only problem is his MT's. If he cleans that up, he good. Last year, he had 9 MT's on 1040 plays.

The guy from MIA isn't a bad option either.

I really wish we could have gotten Weddle last year. Guy is amazing. Top five in every critical stat last two years.

Byrd is the clear second best FS. Reshad Jones has been a stud for MAI this year as well.

Like I said, Byrd, Goldson, and Phillips are all great FS. We should be able to get one of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cox Schwartz and Bryd as a FA class would be assume.

BTW several of the FA'a on you list played for Chip Kelly Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cox Schwartz and Bryd as a FA class would be assume.

BTW several of the FA'a on you list played for Chip Kelly Wink


Schwartz, to me, would only be a good signing on the cheap. He can't win a full time job in MIN, even healthy.

But yes, I'm aware there are a few from ORE.

There's plenty of good CB's. I'm intrigued by Grimes. Could come on the cheap.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Cox Schwartz and Bryd as a FA class would be assume.

BTW several of the FA'a on you list played for Chip Kelly Wink


Schwartz, to me, would only be a good signing on the cheap. He can't win a full time job in MIN, even healthy.

But yes, I'm aware there are a few from ORE.

There's plenty of good CB's. I'm intrigued by Grimes. Could come on the cheap.
The Vikings guards are better than the Browns, G.Schwartz over Luovou easily.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Cox Schwartz and Bryd as a FA class would be assume.

BTW several of the FA'a on you list played for Chip Kelly Wink


Schwartz, to me, would only be a good signing on the cheap. He can't win a full time job in MIN, even healthy.

But yes, I'm aware there are a few from ORE.

There's plenty of good CB's. I'm intrigued by Grimes. Could come on the cheap.
The Vikings guards are better than the Browns, G.Schwartz over Luovou easily.


Can't dispute that. But there's many other fa guards that are more proven and better than him.
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bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Cox Schwartz and Bryd as a FA class would be assume.

BTW several of the FA'a on you list played for Chip Kelly Wink


Schwartz, to me, would only be a good signing on the cheap. He can't win a full time job in MIN, even healthy.

But yes, I'm aware there are a few from ORE.

There's plenty of good CB's. I'm intrigued by Grimes. Could come on the cheap.
The Vikings guards are better than the Browns, G.Schwartz over Luovou easily.


Can't dispute that. But there's many other fa guards that are more proven and better than him.


Speaking of what are you thoughts on Kory Lichtensteiger and where does he rank amoung guards? I was thinking Kyle Shanahan might get more HC sniffs this year than he has so far and hope he would be an option here with his ZBS.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KamTrus20 wrote:
bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Cox Schwartz and Bryd as a FA class would be assume.

BTW several of the FA'a on you list played for Chip Kelly Wink


Schwartz, to me, would only be a good signing on the cheap. He can't win a full time job in MIN, even healthy.

But yes, I'm aware there are a few from ORE.

There's plenty of good CB's. I'm intrigued by Grimes. Could come on the cheap.
The Vikings guards are better than the Browns, G.Schwartz over Luovou easily.


Can't dispute that. But there's many other fa guards that are more proven and better than him.


Speaking of what are you thoughts on Kory Lichtensteiger and where does he rank amoung guards? I was thinking Kyle Shanahan might get more HC sniffs this year than he has so far and hope he would be an option here with his ZBS.


I think its really difficult to judge ol in a zbs. Is it the system or the player?

But, here it is. Rbs avg 4.43 behind LG. He allowed 1 sack, 5 hits, and 14 hurries.
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bulldog wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
bulldog wrote:
DawgSoldier wrote:
Cox Schwartz and Bryd as a FA class would be assume.

BTW several of the FA'a on you list played for Chip Kelly Wink


Schwartz, to me, would only be a good signing on the cheap. He can't win a full time job in MIN, even healthy.

But yes, I'm aware there are a few from ORE.

There's plenty of good CB's. I'm intrigued by Grimes. Could come on the cheap.
The Vikings guards are better than the Browns, G.Schwartz over Luovou easily.


Can't dispute that. But there's many other fa guards that are more proven and better than him.


Speaking of what are you thoughts on Kory Lichtensteiger and where does he rank amoung guards? I was thinking Kyle Shanahan might get more HC sniffs this year than he has so far and hope he would be an option here with his ZBS.


I think its really difficult to judge ol in a zbs. Is it the system or the player?

But, here it is. Rbs avg 4.43 behind LG. He allowed 1 sack, 5 hits, and 14 hurries.


My opinion is that it comes down to strength. If a player is athletic AND strong he can play well in either, but weaker yet athletic players tend to only play well in a ZBS. Of course, Iím assuming all of the players are technically sound, otherwise they tend to suck at everything.

By the way, fantastic job. I love this thread and all the great comments.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have any cool stats like bulldog but I have looked up all the free agent punters and here are the 4 that seperated themselves from the pack IMO.

Kevin Huber 4th in NET and 15th in Average
Dustin Colquitt 9th in NET and 14th in Average
Pat McAfee 15th in NET and 5th in Average
Donnie Jones 13th in NET and 11th in Aveage

Kevin Huber 76 Total 7 TB 33 I20 27 Returned
Dustin Colquitt 83 Total 7 TB 45 I20 27 Returned
Pat McAfee 73 Total 8 TB 26 I20 32 Returned
Donnie Jones 88 Total 5 TB 28 I20 48 Returned

I know age doesn't really matter for a punter but

Donnie Jones will be 33
Dustin Colquitt will be 31
Kevin Huber will be 28
Pat McAfee will be 26

I hope we can land Colquitt, Huber or McAfee in free agency so we don't have to use a pick on a punter. Getting Huber will also hurt the special teams of a division rival. He could very well hit the marke too as Mike Brown refuses to pay anybody let alone a punter.
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KamTrus20 wrote:
I don't have any cool stats like bulldog but I have looked up all the free agent punters and here are the 4 that seperated themselves from the pack IMO.

Kevin Huber 4th in NET and 15th in Average
Dustin Colquitt 9th in NET and 14th in Average
Pat McAfee 15th in NET and 5th in Average
Donnie Jones 13th in NET and 11th in Aveage

Kevin Huber 76 Total 7 TB 33 I20 27 Returned
Dustin Colquitt 83 Total 7 TB 45 I20 27 Returned
Pat McAfee 73 Total 8 TB 26 I20 32 Returned
Donnie Jones 88 Total 5 TB 28 I20 48 Returned

I know age doesn't really matter for a punter but

Donnie Jones will be 33
Dustin Colquitt will be 31
Kevin Huber will be 28
Pat McAfee will be 26

I hope we can land Colquitt, Huber or McAfee in free agency so we don't have to use a pick on a punter. Getting Huber will also hurt the special teams of a division rival. He could very well hit the marke too as Mike Brown refuses to pay anybody let alone a punter.


They did franchise a kicker.....instead of houshmanzadah
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bulldog wrote:
KamTrus20 wrote:
I don't have any cool stats like bulldog but I have looked up all the free agent punters and here are the 4 that seperated themselves from the pack IMO.

Kevin Huber 4th in NET and 15th in Average
Dustin Colquitt 9th in NET and 14th in Average
Pat McAfee 15th in NET and 5th in Average
Donnie Jones 13th in NET and 11th in Aveage

Kevin Huber 76 Total 7 TB 33 I20 27 Returned
Dustin Colquitt 83 Total 7 TB 45 I20 27 Returned
Pat McAfee 73 Total 8 TB 26 I20 32 Returned
Donnie Jones 88 Total 5 TB 28 I20 48 Returned

I know age doesn't really matter for a punter but

Donnie Jones will be 33
Dustin Colquitt will be 31
Kevin Huber will be 28
Pat McAfee will be 26

I hope we can land Colquitt, Huber or McAfee in free agency so we don't have to use a pick on a punter. Getting Huber will also hurt the special teams of a division rival. He could very well hit the marke too as Mike Brown refuses to pay anybody let alone a punter.


They did franchise a kicker.....instead of houshmanzadah


They may do that actually because it would be cheaper than franchising Andre Smith or Michael Johnson.

As long as we get 1 of the 4 them I'll be happy. We don't need an elite punter especially if we get an aggressive coach that will go for it on 4th and short. I also don't want to spend a draft pick on a punter if we don't have to do so.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

List updated with 34 OLB

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