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Pleeeease bring in Wisenhunt as OC or TE coach.
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Pleeeease bring in Wisenhunt as OC or TE coach.


I am 99% confident that he gets a head coaching job. The Cards made a mistake letting him go.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
[UMN] wrote:
Pleeeease bring in Wisenhunt as OC or TE coach.


I am 99% confident that he gets a head coaching job. The Cards made a mistake letting him go.


I don't see how. He's been a terrible head coach IMO. I think the Steelers made the correct decision in not hiring him.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

disaacs wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
[UMN] wrote:
Pleeeease bring in Wisenhunt as OC or TE coach.


I am 99% confident that he gets a head coaching job. The Cards made a mistake letting him go.


I don't see how. He's been a terrible head coach IMO. I think the Steelers made the correct decision in not hiring him.


I dont think he's that bad.

He has had the most success than any cardinals coach in recent history. sure it took having a great QB, but what coach doesnt benefit from that?

of the head coaches fired, I believe that Lovie Smith, Wisenhunt and Andy Reid will find HC jobs elsewhere.
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vikingsrule wrote:
I dont think he's that bad.

He has had the most success than any cardinals coach in recent history. sure it took having a great QB, but what coach doesnt benefit from that?

of the head coaches fired, I believe that Lovie Smith, Wisenhunt and Andy Reid will find HC jobs elsewhere.


I think the team actually got worse the longer he was coach. And let's not forget that the QB was brought in by Denny. And Whisenhunt made it to the Super Bowl on the strength of most of Denny's players.
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disaacs wrote:
vikingsrule wrote:
I dont think he's that bad.

He has had the most success than any cardinals coach in recent history. sure it took having a great QB, but what coach doesnt benefit from that?

of the head coaches fired, I believe that Lovie Smith, Wisenhunt and Andy Reid will find HC jobs elsewhere.


I think the team actually got worse the longer he was coach. And let's not forget that the QB was brought in by Denny. And Whisenhunt made it to the Super Bowl on the strength of most of Denny's players.


Shouldnt the blame then mostly be put on Rod Graves, the GM that got fired?
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Shouldnt the blame then mostly be put on Rod Graves, the GM that got fired?


Certainly (and he did get fired for it), but a good coach could have done a better job at managing the players he did have. While none of the QBs that Whisenhunt had were great, he never stuck with one long enough to ever develop any of them. That's his fault. They were both at fault and deservedly got fired for it.
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Suspended defensive coordinator Gregg Williams won't return to the St. Louis Rams next season, according to sources. Sources said the Rams also let go of Williams' son, Blake, who served as the Rams' linebackers coach this season.

Williams has not yet been reinstated by the NFL after he was suspended indefinitely for his part in the New Orleans Saints bounty scandal.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8804050/suspended-defensive-coordinator-gregg-williams-return-st-louis-rams-according-sources



that whole being responsible for your actions thing really can bite, eh?
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The Kansas City Chiefs are on the verge of a deal to make Andy Reid their next head coach, according to league sources. There still are minor details to work out, but after nine hours of meetings Wednesday, one source involved in the talks said "the major issues have been discussed and agreed upon."

One source close to Reid said this morning, "This is going to happen fast."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8809040/andy-reid-verge-agreement-kansas-city-chiefs-sources
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If that happens, expect that Pioli will be shown the door a short time later. While Pioli has worked with a strong-headed coach before (Belichick), they have far different philosophies, so I can't imagine how that marriage would work.
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What has seemed inevitable in recent days is now (almost) official, as ESPNís Chris Mortensen has now reported that Andy Reid has agreed to a deal to become the next head coach of the Chiefs.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/report-chiefs-and-andy-reid-agree-to-deal/

If that is true, then expect a lineman to go #1, so it could be Bjorn Woerner or Star Lotulelei. I wouldn't expect Reid to take Geno Smith #1 and actually would wait to take a QB in Rd 2, whichever one might be available.
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Will Andy keep KC's 3-4 intact?
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Will Andy keep KC's 3-4 intact?


That's a good question. Considering they've only been a 3-4 team for 3 years, they will likely be reverting back to the 4-3, as that's what Reid's teams have always done. But, he certainly could bring in a DC more familiar with the 3-4 if he wishes to keep it that way.

Tamba Hali isn't as bad a fit as a 4-3 DE as Dorsey was a 3-4 DE. Hali did play in the 4-3 prior to their switch, but he didn't make nearly the same impact as he did after. But, they could feasibly get away with moving back to the 4-3, although players like Tyson Jackson and Justin Houston could be hung out to dry considering they are more 3-4 DE and OLB than 4-3 DT and DE.
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5 year contract for Reid in KC.
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disaacs wrote:
rpmwr19 wrote:
Will Andy keep KC's 3-4 intact?


That's a good question. Considering they've only been a 3-4 team for 3 years, they will likely be reverting back to the 4-3, as that's what Reid's teams have always done. But, he certainly could bring in a DC more familiar with the 3-4 if he wishes to keep it that way.

Tamba Hali isn't as bad a fit as a 4-3 DE as Dorsey was a 3-4 DE. Hali did play in the 4-3 prior to their switch, but he didn't make nearly the same impact as he did after. But, they could feasibly get away with moving back to the 4-3, although players like Tyson Jackson and Justin Houston could be hung out to dry considering they are more 3-4 DE and OLB than 4-3 DT and DE.


Justin Houston is big enough to play 4-3 DE, I think he would do just fine there.

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