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don4593
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Wish we could have just got a new QB and not fired Gailey ugh
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| don4593 wrote: | | Wish we could have just got a new QB and not fired Gailey ugh |
Really? Why? What has Gailey ever done that makes you think he's a good NFL HC? He was barely above average in Dallas with Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Deion Sanders, Darren Woodson, etc...
He may be a decent OC. He's quite possibly still a good college coach. He's not even an average NFL HC.
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Buffalo_Kid
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I would be happy with either Lovie or Wiz. they would be great choices for the Bills.
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cdavls17
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I wuldnt mind Lovie but isnt his defense a 3-4? If so I am not really going to be thrilled about a change to that since the 4-3 is the better formation with this group of players. Changing them is only going to set them back an extra year or 2
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| cdavls17 wrote: | | I wuldnt mind Lovie but isnt his defense a 3-4? If so I am not really going to be thrilled about a change to that since the 4-3 is the better formation with this group of players. Changing them is only going to set them back an extra year or 2 |
As far as I know Lovie always ran a 4-3 in Chicago more of a tampa 2 if I am correct.
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cdavls17
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Ok for some reason I thought they always ran a 3-4 well in that case I have 0 issues about him being HC.
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At this point, Lovie or bust.
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| bigbadbuff23835 wrote: | | At this point, Lovie or bust. |
I'm warming up to this idea myself. I wonder if the Bears have his assistants, especially on D, locked up with contracts (like AZ has done so Horton couldn't gut their staff)? If Lovie can't bring the majority of his current staff, I wonder where/how he'd fill out the other positions? I really have no idea what his connections to others in this league is like.
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GOGRIESE
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| Yibbyl wrote: | | bigbadbuff23835 wrote: | | At this point, Lovie or bust. |
I'm warming up to this idea myself. I wonder if the Bears have his assistants, especially on D, locked up with contracts (like AZ has done so Horton couldn't gut their staff)? If Lovie can't bring the majority of his current staff, I wonder where/how he'd fill out the other positions? I really have no idea what his connections to others in this league is like. |
The guys under contract would probably resign. Rod Marinelli is under contract. However,guys like Byrd,Hoke and Babich are not known to be under contract. Those are guys Lovie would take with him.
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Yibbyl
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| GOGRIESE wrote: | | Yibbyl wrote: | | bigbadbuff23835 wrote: | | At this point, Lovie or bust. |
I'm warming up to this idea myself. I wonder if the Bears have his assistants, especially on D, locked up with contracts (like AZ has done so Horton couldn't gut their staff)? If Lovie can't bring the majority of his current staff, I wonder where/how he'd fill out the other positions? I really have no idea what his connections to others in this league is like. |
The guys under contract would probably resign. Rod Marinelli is under contract. However,guys like Byrd,Hoke and Babich are not known to be under contract. Those are guys Lovie would take with him. |
Thanks. Of course, I just asked about this over in the Bears forum!  You guys were smart to lock up Marinelli. Very smart.
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| Yibbyl wrote: | | GOGRIESE wrote: | | Yibbyl wrote: | | bigbadbuff23835 wrote: | | At this point, Lovie or bust. |
I'm warming up to this idea myself. I wonder if the Bears have his assistants, especially on D, locked up with contracts (like AZ has done so Horton couldn't gut their staff)? If Lovie can't bring the majority of his current staff, I wonder where/how he'd fill out the other positions? I really have no idea what his connections to others in this league is like. |
The guys under contract would probably resign. Rod Marinelli is under contract. However,guys like Byrd,Hoke and Babich are not known to be under contract. Those are guys Lovie would take with him. |
Thanks. Of course, I just asked about this over in the Bears forum! You guys were smart to lock up Marinelli. Very smart. |
Makes no difference as the entire assistant staff is under contract, but they are expected to resign once Lovie gets another job. ESPNChicago.com reporter Jeff Dickerson said that he doesn't expect any of the assistants to remain, and that Emery would probably let them out of their contracts once they request it, rather than waiting to be fired by the new HC.
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Thought you guys might be interested in this response from the Bears forum:
| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Yibbyl wrote: | Hey guys, looking for a little insight/info on your coaching staff. Specifically, I'm wondering if the assistant coaches were let go with Lovie or were locked up with contracts, especially the defensive coaches? In other words, can Lovie take some/many/most of the defensive staff with him if (when) he gets hired? Are there any assistants you can identify that he would absolutely like to take with him?
Thanks and best of luck to you guys in this off-season. |
The assistants are all still under contract, but one of the beat guys said that he expects none of the assistants to stay. Most likely scenario is that the D staff (Rod Marinelli, Bob Babich, John Hoke), RBs coach Tim Spencer, WRs coach Daryl Drake, and the best ST Coach in the game Dave Toub all follow Lovie. Marinelli is a DL guru. Lance Briggs & Brian Urlacher say that Babich is an excellent LB coach, and John Hoke really turned around the secondary since he joined the staff in 2010. Daryl Drake was given absolute trash to work w/ for the most part until recently and has been able to get guys that shouldn't be playing WR in the NFL to look like avg NFL WRs. Dave Toub, as I stated earlier, is the best ST Coach in the NFL. Perrennially has his unit ranked as the best in the NFL. Was a strong candidate for the Miami HC job last year, and has been slapped in the face by the team by bringing in other ST coaches for interviews, but not interviewing him. |
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Maxmw22
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Anyone else think it's funny that?
Dave Wannstedt
Bears Head Coach 1993-98
Dick Jauron
Bears Head Coach 1999-2003
Lovie Smith
Bears Head Coach 2004-2012
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Yibbyl
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| Maxmw22 wrote: | Anyone else think it's funny that?
Dave Wannstedt
Bears Head Coach 1993-98
Dick Jauron
Bears Head Coach 1999-2003
Lovie Smith
Bears Head Coach 2004-2012 |
Holy Carp! Abandon ship! Abaaaaaaaaandon Ship!
Seriously, I hope our FO invites him in for an interview.
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Maxmw22
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| Yibbyl wrote: | | Maxmw22 wrote: | Anyone else think it's funny that?
Dave Wannstedt
Bears Head Coach 1993-98
Dick Jauron
Bears Head Coach 1999-2003
Lovie Smith
Bears Head Coach 2004-2012 |
Holy Carp! Abandon ship! Abaaaaaaaaandon Ship!
Seriously, I hope our FO invites him in for an interview. |
I hear yah me too, I think he is most Bills fans #1 option right now, but I am also ok with Whiz, don't really want him, but in the big picture, definitely better than keeping Gailey IMO.
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