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Blahman88
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Yeah I called it, Vick was never a good QB
#PEingitup
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| Blahman88 wrote: | Yeah I called it, Vick was never a good QB
#PEingitup |
I was on that wagon from the start - never was, isn't and never will be a good QB
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Weird That 2010 must never existed
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| marky_b27 wrote: | | Blahman88 wrote: | Yeah I called it, Vick was never a good QB
#PEingitup |
I was on that wagon from the start - never was, isn't and never will be a good QB |
Teams didn't know what to expect from vick when he got out of jail.Teams led on and knew how to get vick in 2011 and 2012.
Funny thing rg3 hype was the same when vick took us to playoffs.And we lost to GB who won the superbowl later on.Skins would get smacked so hard by seattle it not even funny.I wouldn't be shocked if seattle won the superbowl.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Weird That 2010 must never existed |
That was an illusion. A fluke.
Teams easily figured out Vick by that season's end.
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Blahman88
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Weird That 2010 must never existed |
Derek Anderson won 10 games in a season once, your point is invalid.
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Phire
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| Blahman88 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Weird That 2010 must never existed |
Derek Anderson won 10 games in a season once, your point is invalid. |
Rex Grossman went to the Super Bowl.
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RainbowCarebear
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| Phire wrote: | | Blahman88 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Weird That 2010 must never existed |
Derek Anderson won 10 games in a season once, your point is invalid. |
Rex Grossman went to the Super Bowl. |
Kyle Orton played most of the season
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Dr. Philly
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Phire wrote: | | Blahman88 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Weird That 2010 must never existed |
Derek Anderson won 10 games in a season once, your point is invalid. |
Rex Grossman went to the Super Bowl. |
Kyle Orton played most of the season |
Not that year, that was all sexy rexy.
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nlesthought
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Rexy 23 TDs, 20 ints, lost 5 fumbles in 2006 first time he played a full season completed 54% of his passes...
Those stats from your starting QB don't lead you to a SB...
 2006 Bears Def 15pts/g allowed, 5th TOTAL def, +13 in Takeaways
Devin Hester 5 return TDs, 600 yds on PR? 1TD returned 108yds from a missed FG....
Talk to me when the other 2/3 of the Eagles team showed up like this over the course of 16 games.
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nlesthought
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^To follow that up with
2008-09 Ben Shotsnburgers first season playing 16
17TDs, 15int 7 lost fumbles 80.1 QB rating
Steelers D #1 Total Def, 13.9 pts/game allowed, +4 Takeaways
Again my point is the QB doesn't have to be statistically in the top 5 to win if your other phases of the game are playing at a high level.
The lowest PPG we allowed since '04 SB at 18pts (2008)
Biggerst TO margin +15 (2009)
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babyatemydingo
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Blahman88 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Weird That 2010 must never existed |
Derek Anderson won 10 games in a season once, your point is invalid. |
Don Majkowski, 1989. |
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BBIB
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| nlesthought wrote: | ^To follow that up with
2008-09 Ben Shotsnburgers first season playing 16
17TDs, 15int 7 lost fumbles 80.1 QB rating
Steelers D #1 Total Def, 13.9 pts/game allowed, +4 Takeaways
Again my point is the QB doesn't have to be statistically in the top 5 to win if your other phases/ of the game are playing at a high level.
The lowest PPG we allowed since '04 SB at 18pts (2008)
Biggerst TO margin +15 (2009) |
And on the other end of the spectrum is the 2012 Eagles which had a bottom 3 Oline and a bottom 5 defense.
How many teams win a Super Bowl with that even if they had Tom Brady at QB?
Now Vick certainly didn't help with all the turnovers, but no one could have competed with that lack of support from the OLine AND defense |
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BBIB
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| marky_b27 wrote: | | Blahman88 wrote: | Yeah I called it, Vick was never a good QB
#PEingitup |
I was on that wagon from the start - never was, isn't and never will be a good QB |
Accounting for 30 TDs in 12 games is good no matter how you spin it
Vick in 2002 and 2010 was clearly a good QB. Those were also the two years where he wasn't confined to a system that he didn't belong in |
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NoHypeNeeded
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| BBIB wrote: | | marky_b27 wrote: | | Blahman88 wrote: | Yeah I called it, Vick was never a good QB
#PEingitup |
I was on that wagon from the start - never was, isn't and never will be a good QB |
Accounting for 30 TDs in 12 games is good no matter how you spin it
Vick in 2002 and 2010 was clearly a good QB. Those were also the two years where he wasn't confined to a system that he didn't belong in |
Wait jw but what system change are you talking about from 2010-2011?
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