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dsryan24
Joined: 03 Jan 2012 Posts: 39 Location: United States
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: REDO of Mock Offseason after your criticism |
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FIRED- Andy Reid and all other coaches
HIRED- Chip Kelly (HC) Mark Helfrich (OC) Lovie Smith (DC)
PLAYERS GONE- Mike Vick, Nnamdi Asomugha, Demetress Bell, King Dunlap, Jake Scott, Darryl Tapp, Akeem Jordan, Nate Allen, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
RESIGNED- Jon Dorenbos LS, Mat McBriar P
FREE AGENTS- Jairus Byrd S 6 years 55 million, Sean Smith CB 5 years 35 million, Jason Smith OT 1 year 1 million, Amobi Okoye DT 2 years 4 million
TRADES- Eagles trade 1st round pick (4th overall) to NYJ for 12th overall pick, 2013 2nd round pick and 2013 4th round pick.
DRAFT-
1) Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M- The Eagles get their OT to go on the other side of Peters, this moves Herremans back to the inside also. His dad is a HOF OT which only helps.
2) Kenny Vaccaro S Texas- The Eagles get their other saftey to replace Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman. Having Vaccaro and Byrd in the defensive backfield looks really good for the Eagles for years to come.
2b) Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State- The Eagles get their other guy opposite of Sean Smith. Poyer is physical just like Smith and will help playing against these receivers in the NFC East.
3) Gerald Hodges LB Penn State- We get another starter with this pick. Hodges comes from the linebacker U of PSU, has immense talent and will battle with Chaney for the starting SLB spot, which he'll likely win.
4) Jordan Hill DT Penn State- Building more depth along the defensive line is key. Hill may be the guy to replace Cullen Jenkins after he will likely be gone after the 13-14 season, unless Okoye becomes what he was supposed to.
4) Braxston Cave C Notre Dame- building depth along the offensive line is key in this draft as well. Cave will be the guy behind Kelce if he isnt what he used to be, or Kelce was strictly a Mudd type player.
5) Darius Slay CB Miss State- A friend of Fletcher Cox's gets brought in to provide more depth at corner. Will battle with Marsh for the dime spot, maybe even a sleepr to beat out Boykin at nickel.
6) Travis Johnson DE San Jose State- Johnson is a depth guy along the d-line that would be one of those typical "fast ball" DE's. Could be in the mold of a Bruce Irvin just not as talented and a lot later in the draft.
6*)Shamarko Thomas S Syracuse- Thomas will come in and battle with Kurt Coleman to be Jairus Byrd's backup.
7) Michael Mauti LB Penn State- although Mauti is hurt. He could come back and be a big contributor for this team. He is a great leader and worth taking a risk on at this point in the draft.
7*)John Wetzel OT Boston College- comes from a decent pedigree of OL at BC. may be moved to OG in the pro's though so worth taking a shot at some more depth along the offensive line.
*=projected compensatory picks
DEPTH
QB- Foles, Edwards
RB- McCoy, Brown, Lewis
FB- Havilli
WR- Jackson, Maclin, Avant, Cooper, Johnson
TE- Celek, Harbor
LT- Peters, Smith
LG- Herremans, Wetzel
C- Kelce, Cave
RG- Mathis, Watkins
RT- Matthews, Kelly
LE- Graham, Hunt, Johnson
DT- Cox, Jenkins, Okoye, Hill, Thornton
RE- Cole, Curry
LOLB- Hodges, Mauti
MLB- Ryans, Matthews
ROLB- Kendricks, Chaney
CB- Smith, Poyer, Boykin, Slay, Marsh
FS- Byrd, Thomas
SS- Vaccaro, Anderson _________________ Still bleed green.. Just hoping for the best changes this offseason
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RainbowCarebear 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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I like it, but it doesn't seem very realistic. _________________
"Of gold and silver and gemstones, it had none; bronze and iron were the metals of winter"
"He is part of you, Robb. To fear him is to fear you."
"These are northmen, Uncle. The north remembers." |
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dsryan24
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | I like it, but it doesn't seem very realistic. | what is unrealistic about it? _________________ Still bleed green.. Just hoping for the best changes this offseason |
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oland11 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Better. But the Jets aren't THAT stupid. _________________
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dsryan24
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| oland11 wrote: | | Better. But the Jets aren't THAT stupid. | well according to the trade value chart on NFLDraftcountdown.com this trade is actually in the Jets favor.. the 4th pick is valued at 1,800 pts, while the 12th overall, 2nd rd pick and 4th round pick is at a combined value of 1,738 points.. _________________ Still bleed green.. Just hoping for the best changes this offseason |
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oland11 
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| dsryan24 wrote: | | oland11 wrote: | | Better. But the Jets aren't THAT stupid. | well according to the trade value chart on NFLDraftcountdown.com this trade is actually in the Jets favor.. the 4th pick is valued at 1,800 pts, while the 12th overall, 2nd rd pick and 4th round pick is at a combined value of 1,738 points.. |
But the Jets have just as many problems as us. They might even have more. They aren't going to trade up. Thats preposterous. _________________
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mm6492
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| oland11 wrote: | | dsryan24 wrote: | | oland11 wrote: | | Better. But the Jets aren't THAT stupid. | well according to the trade value chart on NFLDraftcountdown.com this trade is actually in the Jets favor.. the 4th pick is valued at 1,800 pts, while the 12th overall, 2nd rd pick and 4th round pick is at a combined value of 1,738 points.. |
But the Jets have just as many problems as us. They might even have more. They aren't going to trade up. Thats preposterous. | No really if they fall in love with a guy.
Love 3 Penn State players  _________________
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PhiCelek87
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| dsryan24 wrote: | | oland11 wrote: | | Better. But the Jets aren't THAT stupid. | well according to the trade value chart on NFLDraftcountdown.com this trade is actually in the Jets favor.. the 4th pick is valued at 1,800 pts, while the 12th overall, 2nd rd pick and 4th round pick is at a combined value of 1,738 points.. |
With the rookie wage scale in place the draft chart is obsolete...
Also, who exactly do you have them trading up to get? |
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Kiltman 
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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If Geno Smith is there the Jets at least would consider trading up I'd think _________________
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dsryan24
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| PhiCelek87 wrote: | | dsryan24 wrote: | | oland11 wrote: | | Better. But the Jets aren't THAT stupid. | well according to the trade value chart on NFLDraftcountdown.com this trade is actually in the Jets favor.. the 4th pick is valued at 1,800 pts, while the 12th overall, 2nd rd pick and 4th round pick is at a combined value of 1,738 points.. |
With the rookie wage scale in place the draft chart is obsolete...
Also, who exactly do you have them trading up to get? | not sure what the rookie wage has anything to do with a draft value chart.... usuallly teams draft the best players first, not the worst... thats why each draft position has a value, not by how much the player makes at that slot... I have them trading up to get Jarvis Jones _________________ Still bleed green.. Just hoping for the best changes this offseason |
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TheKingDP 
Joined: 03 Nov 2010 Posts: 561 Location: illadelph
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| dsryan24 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | I like it, but it doesn't seem very realistic. | what is unrealistic about it? |
Disregard that quote, dsryan24.. This is pretty much the same useless message RC posts on EVERY SINGLE mock on this message board. He says "Very unrealistic" and offers no other criticism for why. |
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RainbowCarebear 
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| TheKingDP wrote: | | dsryan24 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | I like it, but it doesn't seem very realistic. | what is unrealistic about it? |
Disregard that quote, dsryan24.. This is pretty much the same useless message RC posts on EVERY SINGLE mock on this message board. He says "Very unrealistic" and offers no other criticism for why. |
Lovie Smith most likely isn't fired.
Every mock where we Trade down is a Dream scenario, but it will not happren in my opinion.
Sean Smith Will Be resigned by Miami. Byrd Will NOT Be allowed to leave Buffalo. _________________
"Of gold and silver and gemstones, it had none; bronze and iron were the metals of winter"
"He is part of you, Robb. To fear him is to fear you."
"These are northmen, Uncle. The north remembers." |
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Dr. Philly
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Helfrich will stay at Oregon if Chip leaves, he's the next HC. _________________
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dsryan24
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | TheKingDP wrote: | | dsryan24 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | I like it, but it doesn't seem very realistic. | what is unrealistic about it? |
Disregard that quote, dsryan24.. This is pretty much the same useless message RC posts on EVERY SINGLE mock on this message board. He says "Very unrealistic" and offers no other criticism for why. |
Lovie Smith most likely isn't fired.
Every mock where we Trade down is a Dream scenario, but it will not happren in my opinion.
Sean Smith Will Be resigned by Miami. Byrd Will NOT Be allowed to leave Buffalo. | Lovie Smith was fired.... The Dolphins have a decision on whether to sign their franchise LT or Smith.. if Smith is out on the market its possible he will be gone..and that's why theyre called mock drafts my friend.. their not going to be what will exactly happen.. just a realistic projection _________________ Still bleed green.. Just hoping for the best changes this offseason |
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MaclinandMCcoy 
Joined: 07 Apr 2010 Posts: 2794 Location: Columbia, SC GO COCKS!
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| dsryan24 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | TheKingDP wrote: | | dsryan24 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | I like it, but it doesn't seem very realistic. | what is unrealistic about it? |
Disregard that quote, dsryan24.. This is pretty much the same useless message RC posts on EVERY SINGLE mock on this message board. He says "Very unrealistic" and offers no other criticism for why. |
Lovie Smith most likely isn't fired.
Every mock where we Trade down is a Dream scenario, but it will not happren in my opinion.
Sean Smith Will Be resigned by Miami. Byrd Will NOT Be allowed to leave Buffalo. | Lovie Smith was fired.... The Dolphins have a decision on whether to sign their franchise LT or Smith.. if Smith is out on the market its possible he will be gone..and that's why theyre called mock drafts my friend.. their not going to be what will exactly happen.. just a realistic projection |
Lovie Smith won't end up as a defensive coordinator. _________________
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