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wild style
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 Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:55 am Post subject: Call me crazy but what do you think of this? |
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| For one i hated john fox and the whole ground and pound works great till you play teams that chunks the ball like ne or green bay. With that said i love what ron has done with our team and with what he had to work with. My question is what do you think of Norv Turner as our new gm? I know the ron boo birds would think this is crazy but if Norv had peyton manning he would be close to where fox is right now i am sure of it! Hell denver sucked this year till they just let peyton be peyton! I just a christmas wish thanks for your time and thoughts:) |
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TROJANPANTHER
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:13 am Post subject: Re: Call me crazy but what do you think of this? |
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| wild style wrote: | | For one i hated john fox and the whole ground and pound works great till you play teams that chunks the ball like ne or green bay. With that said i love what ron has done with our team and with what he had to work with. My question is what do you think of Norv Turner as our new gm? I know the ron boo birds would think this is crazy but if Norv had peyton manning he would be close to where fox is right now i am sure of it! Hell denver sucked this year till they just let peyton be peyton! I just a christmas wish thanks for your time and thoughts:) |
lol wut?
I'm not really sure what you're getting at here...
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BringinDaPain
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:36 am Post subject: Re: Call me crazy but what do you think of this? |
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| wild style wrote: | | For one i hated john fox and the whole ground and pound works great till you play teams that chunks the ball like ne or green bay. With that said i love what ron has done with our team and with what he had to work with. My question is what do you think of Norv Turner as our new gm? I know the ron boo birds would think this is crazy but if Norv had peyton manning he would be close to where fox is right now i am sure of it! Hell denver sucked this year till they just let peyton be peyton! I just a christmas wish thanks for your time and thoughts:) |
No, I could see the team hiring him as OC.
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iknowcool
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Call me crazy but what do you think of this? |
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| wild style wrote: | | My question is what do you think of Norv Turner as our new gm? |
What do I think? I think I'd probably shoot myself.
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You're crazy
I want Turner far away from Carolina
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I would only want Turner in a OC role, nothing more; nothing less.
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Why in the hel would we hire Norv as a GM. I could see us getting him as our Offensive Coordinator but only if Chud gets fired and I hope we keep Chud.
I might be one of the very few people around that really wants to keep our whole coaching staff, I think we have played really good this year. Now if we can only learn how to win the close games we would have at least 10 wins. |
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Cypher
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| jbegley8 wrote: | Why in the hel would we hire Norv as a GM. I could see us getting him as our Offensive Coordinator but only if Chud gets fired and I hope we keep Chud.
I might be one of the very few people around that really wants to keep our whole coaching staff, I think we have played really good this year. Now if we can only learn how to win the close games we would have at least 10 wins. |
Take away Harukidookie crapping the bed on the deep ball in Atlanta, Cam's pick six against the Bears and Cam throwing a worm-burner on 4th and goal at Seattle, and we're looking at the playoffs.
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Zithers
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| Cypher wrote: | | jbegley8 wrote: | Why in the hel would we hire Norv as a GM. I could see us getting him as our Offensive Coordinator but only if Chud gets fired and I hope we keep Chud.
I might be one of the very few people around that really wants to keep our whole coaching staff, I think we have played really good this year. Now if we can only learn how to win the close games we would have at least 10 wins. |
Take away Harukidookie crapping the bed on the deep ball in Atlanta, Cam's pick six against the Bears and Cam throwing a worm-burner on 4th and goal at Seattle, and we're looking at the playoffs. |
well maybe gamble should have been on roddy instead of norman and he makes up for haruki screwing up by knocking it away instead of making the rookie error of just STANDING THERE
or instead of doing a bootleg on 4th and short we give it to tolbert or cam up the middle which works... what... 9 times out of 10?
maybe in the bears game, instead of doing timing based routes that make smitty slip on his break, we run the ball to burn the clock since we're ahead two scores (which we did on the next drive and we kicked a field goal... which would have sealed the game if we did in the first place). alternatively, we could just not do prevent.
all coaching decisions. prevent against the bucs too. horrific playcalling against denver (the two drives where we throw from under center we score TDs... i think cam started 6/6 then went 3/11 from the gun after that). i don't understand how there isn't some adjusting going on there.
we're incredibly undisciplined... how many times have we had 12 men in the huddle the past two years? probably more than any other team. dude is a poison and needs to get the hell out.
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| Cypher wrote: | | jbegley8 wrote: | Why in the hel would we hire Norv as a GM. I could see us getting him as our Offensive Coordinator but only if Chud gets fired and I hope we keep Chud.
I might be one of the very few people around that really wants to keep our whole coaching staff, I think we have played really good this year. Now if we can only learn how to win the close games we would have at least 10 wins. |
Take away Harukidookie crapping the bed on the deep ball in Atlanta, Cam's pick six against the Bears and Cam throwing a worm-burner on 4th and goal at Seattle, and we're looking at the playoffs. |
Even if you look at it from that perspective, it does not change the amount of collapses we've had in the second half. What explains us letting up against Tampa Bay and allowing them to win? Or losing to the Chiefs? Or allowing Atlanta to come back from what, 23 to 7? Or the Chicago game. Not even accounting for last year when we choked in the second half as well. That goes back to the other team adjusting and us not adjusting. And then that falls on the coaching staff.
If Rivera stays, I don't care. But even if you use the "3 plays away from the playoffs" thing, it still doesn't change the fact we appear to have a massive issue with our adjustments from first to second half. Which is the main issue I have with our coaching staff and I am skeptical that Chud isn't just going to go back to what he did at the start of the season.
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Moody
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| iknowcool wrote: | | Cypher wrote: | | jbegley8 wrote: | Why in the hel would we hire Norv as a GM. I could see us getting him as our Offensive Coordinator but only if Chud gets fired and I hope we keep Chud.
I might be one of the very few people around that really wants to keep our whole coaching staff, I think we have played really good this year. Now if we can only learn how to win the close games we would have at least 10 wins. |
Take away Harukidookie crapping the bed on the deep ball in Atlanta, Cam's pick six against the Bears and Cam throwing a worm-burner on 4th and goal at Seattle, and we're looking at the playoffs. |
Even if you look at it from that perspective, it does not change the amount of collapses we've had in the second half. What explains us letting up against Tampa Bay and allowing them to win? Or losing to the Chiefs? Or allowing Atlanta to come back from what, 23 to 7? Or the Chicago game. Not even accounting for last year when we choked in the second half as well. That goes back to the other team adjusting and us not adjusting. And then that falls on the coaching staff.
If Rivera stays, I don't care. But even if you use the "3 plays away from the playoffs" thing, it still doesn't change the fact we appear to have a massive issue with our adjustments from first to second half. Which is the main issue I have with our coaching staff and I am skeptical that Chud isn't just going to go back to what he did at the start of the season. |
Similar collapses happened last year too.
They have statistics of a fringe top ten team and yet they only beat bottom 10 teams (other than Atlanta).
They've given away games and they've never come back from a deficit to steal a game. I think the major problem is that they're weak against the run, which makes comebacks much harder. Being able to run the ball would also make holding leads a lot easier. |
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