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Thomas5737
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| hornbybrown wrote: | | Ether wrote: | | nugpimpen wrote: | Dennis Northcutt?????
Kevin Johnson >>>
Hell, Josh Gordon >>>
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Northcutt put so much work in though. |
He dropped that pass in the playoff vs the Steelers. he should be erassed from Browns history for that alone.
McCutheon (spelling) the original 33 is not getting near enough love in this. I would love to have him on this team. |
Agree about 33. Kinda forgot about KJ, he would be great in this offense. Hmmm when I make my list I will have to consider him at QB, Northcutt too. |
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Ether
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| hornbybrown wrote: |
He dropped that pass in the playoff vs the Steelers. he should be erassed from Browns history for that alone.
McCutheon (spelling) the original 33 is not getting near enough love in this. I would love to have him on this team. |
And he also caught 2 touchdowns that game. |
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Ether
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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The problem I have with guys like McCutcheon and Bodden is that I think that our pass defense was so awful with them on the team that they weren't exposed as much as they could have been.
Had Sheldon Brown been playing for us for a couple more years I don't think it would be close. |
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Pruitt3443
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In way too many instances it is hard to find a guy that I like at a position. In other cases, such as Couch, I think if he had played with some of the guys on this list he would have been much better and proabbaly stayed much healthier.
In keeping with that theme, I am also choosing some guys that had they stayed healthy I think would be our best at those positions ie Courtney Brown. Looking at this roster below I think it would be a really good team. I think a lot of the depth on this team would come from players currently on our roster such as Winn, Hughes and Greco as we have a much deeper roster then in the the past and I would take some guys from today's team over some previous starters.
As an aside while I like Mack a lot had Bentley not had that tragic injury/infection I believe he would have been the starting center on this team.
QB: Couch/Weeden
RB: Richardson/Lewis
FB: Lawrence Vickers
WR: Josh Gordon
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Kevin Johnson
WR: Greg Little
WR: Joe Jurevicius
TE: Kellen Winslow
TE: Ben Watson
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Eric Steinbach
C: Alex Mack
RG: Ryan Tucker
RT: Mitchell Schwartz
DE: Courtney Brown
DT: Phil Taylor
DT: Shaun Rogers
DT: Ahytyba Rubin
DE: Jabaal Sheard
OLB: Jamir Miller
MLB: D'Qwell Jackson
OLB: Kam Wimbley
CB: Joe Haden
CB: Daylon McCutcheon
CB: Sheldon Brown
FS: Anthony Henry
SS: Sean Jones
K: Dawson
P: Hodges
KR: Cribbs
LS: Pontbriand |
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fatpig
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:10 am Post subject: |
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i didn't make a list but i'm gonna throw out some critiques:
- Northcutt doesn't belong on any lists other than things I want to forget
- if we're gonna list Bodden as a CB then E Wright when he was good (2007-8?) should also be included
- Ward at SS easily but Sean Jones would be a close second at that position. he had plenty of timely INTs for us.
- Andra Davis is a close second behind DQ
- Heiden deserves a backup role. he was consistent for us.
- Kenard Lang for president, Ted Washington for vice president
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pmk
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: Re: All Browns Team(99-now) |
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| KamTrus20 wrote: | How many of the current Browns would be on that 22 man team? I think we have the best we have had since the return at over half the positions easy.
Offensive Locks ::
Trent Richardson
Josh Gordon
Joe Thomas
Alex Mack
Guys you could easily argue for ::
Brandon Weeden considering his compitition is DA and Couch
Mitchell Schwartz or Ryan Tucker
Greg Little will become better than Edwards here soon.
Defensive Locks ::
Phil Taylor
Ahtyba Rubin
Joe Thomas
D'Qwell Jackson
T.J. Ward
Could easily make the case ::
Jabaal Sheard
I beleive a lot of our depth guys currently on the roster are actually better than most of the starters we have had since 1999. |
Joe Thomas is awesome but I'm not sure he's worthy of a lock on the defensive side  He did play DE in college though and has a very good build for a 3-4 DE, would be interesting to see him line up there in the pros
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The OUTLAW
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I'm still trying to figure out why richardson is getting so much love. I like him and I think he runs hard, but his production does not warrant consideration.
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Estonianzulu
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| The OUTLAW wrote: | | I'm still trying to figure out why richardson is getting so much love. I like him and I think he runs hard, but his production does not warrant consideration. |
Yeah, love me some T-Rich but it has to be Jamal Lewis
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MSURacerDT55
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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QB:D.Anderson
RB:J.Lewis
FB:L.Vickers/M.Edwards
WR:B.Edwards
WR:K.Johnson
WR:J.Gordon
TE:K.Winslow/S.Heiden
OT:J.Thomas/O.Brown
OG:E.Steinbach
C:E.Mack/S.O'Hara
OG:J.Andruzzi
OT:R.Tucker/M.Schwartz
DE:K.Lang
DT:S.Rogers/R.Smith
DT:A.Rubin/O.Roye
DE:C.Brown
OLB:W.McGinest
MLB:D.Jackson
ILB: E.Holmes
OLB:J.Miller/D.Rudd
CB:J.Haden
CB:A.Henry
FS:E.Little
SS:T.Ward/S.Jones
Also there were some interesting "names" around since '99 as well, Spergon Wynn,Adimchinobe Echimandu,Babatunde Oshinowo(AKA "Poor man's Ngata),Derrick Frost,Benjamin Gay(The "Legend"),Frisman Jackson,Chad Mustard,Josh Booty,Derrick Ham,Earthwind Moreland,Karim Abdul-Jabbar,Wali Rainer
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Ether
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| Ether wrote: | | hornbybrown wrote: |
He dropped that pass in the playoff vs the Steelers. he should be erassed from Browns history for that alone.
McCutheon (spelling) the original 33 is not getting near enough love in this. I would love to have him on this team. |
And he also caught 2 touchdowns that game. |
also I found this gem on Northcutt's wikipedia
"According to football Outsiders, Northcutt's 2002 season is the most efficient season, play-for-play, of any wide receiver from 1991-2011, even though Northcutt caught a relatively modest 51 catches"
Really want to know how they figured that |
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KamTrus20
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Ether wrote: | | Ether wrote: | | hornbybrown wrote: |
He dropped that pass in the playoff vs the Steelers. he should be erassed from Browns history for that alone.
McCutheon (spelling) the original 33 is not getting near enough love in this. I would love to have him on this team. |
And he also caught 2 touchdowns that game. |
also I found this gem on Northcutt's wikipedia
"According to football Outsiders, Northcutt's 2002 season is the most efficient season, play-for-play, of any wide receiver from 1991-2011, even though Northcutt caught a relatively modest 51 catches"
Really want to know how they figured that |
I'm guessing saying it was efficient then a lot of those catches had to be for 1st downs or touchdowns. I would also imagine no drops.
Who knows I also saw an artical that uses stats to prove Kameron Wimbley was far and away the best 34 OLB his rookie season.
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Ether
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| KamTrus20 wrote: |
I'm guessing saying it was efficient then a lot of those catches had to be for 1st downs or touchdowns. I would also imagine no drops.
Who knows I also saw an artical that uses stats to prove Kameron Wimbley was far and away the best 34 OLB his rookie season. |
I do specifically remembering not only did Wimbley get the sack numbers that year but he was a constant terror off the edge, it wasn't flukey. Even his second season he was getting a lot of pressures. After that...eh...turned it up again for the Raiders though.
I consider Wimbley a pretty easy lock for this team too. |
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mistakebytehlak
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| DawgSoldier wrote: | QB Weeden
RB Hillis
FB Terrell Smith
TE Wislow
WR1 Gordon
WR2 Edwards
WR3 Little
LT Thomas
LG STienbach
C Mack
RG Tucker
RT Schwartz
RDE Wimberly
RDT Rogers
LDT Taylor
LDE Shread
SOLB Gocong
MLB Rainer
WOLB Miller
RCB Bodden
LCB Haden
NB McCuchen
FS Henry
SS Ward |
LOL
Wali Rainer over both Andra Davis AND D'Qwell Jackson
LOL
also, dude, its Sheard
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nugpimpen
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| mistakebytehlak wrote: | | DawgSoldier wrote: | QB Weeden
RB Hillis
FB Terrell Smith
TE Wislow
WR1 Gordon
WR2 Edwards
WR3 Little
LT Thomas
LG STienbach
C Mack
RG Tucker
RT Schwartz
RDE Wimberly
RDT Rogers
LDT Taylor
LDE Shread
SOLB Gocong
MLB Rainer
WOLB Miller
RCB Bodden
LCB Haden
NB McCuchen
FS Henry
SS Ward |
LOL
Wali Rainer over both Andra Davis AND D'Qwell Jackson
LOL
also, dude, its Sheard |
Iono
I might have to start calling him Master Shreader
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MarkPrice25
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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QB - Tim Couch
HB - Peyton Hillis
FB - Lawrence Vickers
TE - Kellen Winslow
WR - Braylon Edwards
WR - Joe Jurevicius
WR - Kevin Johnson
LT - Joe Thomas
LG - Eric Steinbach
C - Alex Mack
RG - Ryan Tucker
RT - Mitchell Schwartz
DE - Courtney Brown
DT - Shaun Rogers
DT - Ahtyba Rubin
DE - Jabaal Sheard
OLB - Kamerion Wimbley
MLB - D'Qwell Jackson
OLB - Jamir Miller
CB - Joe Haden
CB - Eric Wright
CB - Daylon McCutcheon
FS - Brian Russell
SS - TJ Ward
K - Phil Dawson
P - Chris Gardocki
KR/PR - Josh Cribbs
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