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Cusi10


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Realistic QB options in no patricular order. Reply with quote

Kevin Kolb - comes back and and we redo the offensive line completley. levi comes back we draft jockel matthews or lewan. possibly sign a guard in FA. Hope with a new line he stays healthy and shows the same play he gave us before he got hurt. most simple and most likley and what i would want.

Draft either Geno Smith or Matt Barkley. Both guys have flaws and I dont love either one. Barkley is just another USC retread but looks decent at times although his senior year is a major concern. Geno Smith i just cant get behind he looks good but at this point he seems likley to go to kansas city at #1 and its not worth trading picks or letting a franchise LT pass in the draft.

Matt Flynn - a guy cut from the same mold as kevin kolb. backup who showed promise and wants to start. who knows what the trade price is but he hasnt had injury concerns at least.

Donovan Mcnabb - a stop gap option until a new qb is found? He has been reported to be in stelar shape and just wants one last chance to start. You never know....

Vince Young - one of the biggest wastes of talent. dude can play has shown he can be accurate and win games with not a lot of talent around him. would be cheap and easy to motivate given our qb situation and im sure he still has some football left in him.

Mark Sanchez - maybe the jets have had enough and feel they want a new direction and would be willing to trade him. Here is a guy who is asked to make chicken salad out of chicken well you know where im going with this. Is he a little soft yes but he stays healthy and when given some talent to work with he has won games and been on the brink of the superbowl twice and he didnt falter under the pressure. Would do well in low pressure AZ rather than intense NY.

Matt Moore - a guy who seems to flash potential when wanting to prove he is starter worthy but when given the job falls flat in the actual starting role. I am not behind signing him because i feel the sample size as a starter is enough to justify he is a backup and nothing more. Kolb is better as a starter than moore.

Tavaris Jackson - better potential than moore in my opinion and a guy who doesnt get enough credit in terms of his smarts or effort imo. Is intriguing and did well with little to no talent in seattle so working with more talent here could give him a boost in production.

Kirk Cousins - redskins my be willing to trade the young kid if the price is right. a game or two starting if rg3 is sidlined will boost trade intrest.

Alex Smith - looks to be done in SF. I think most agree we have seen the best he can be and if that means low turnover low ceiling offensive football well i guess thats better than what we have now. He would have a chip on his shoulder and would have great weapons but a lacking elite tight end would concern me as most of his big games and great throws seem to go to vernon davis which we do not have here and will not have that.

Michael Vick - most likley is released and able to sign as he chooses. Had our chance to sign him and passed do we take a chance again. He will sell jerseys and put people in the seats. Can still sling it but his injury history is as bad if not worse than Kolb.

Phillip Rivers - would require trading the farm and is the most un realistic option but if the cards want to make the biggest splash at qb no matter the cost this would be it.

what say u all on these options or the direction you think the cardinals should go in the 2013 and beyond at ab
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draft or bust.

Couldn't be an uglier list, excluding the draft.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stchamp98 wrote:
Draft or bust.

Couldn't be an uglier list, excluding the draft.


i know in ur first mock u said barkley. are there anyother guys u think in this draft that could be legit enought to start next year. I go back and forth with barkley. Definatly more mature of man than leinart thats for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cusi10 wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
Draft or bust.

Couldn't be an uglier list, excluding the draft.


i know in ur first mock u said barkley. are there anyother guys u think in this draft that could be legit enought to start next year. I go back and forth with barkley. Definatly more mature of man than leinart thats for sure.


Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson, David Fales and call me crazy but Ryan Nassib. All of them need work but I think they're all talented and intelligent enough to start as rookies and not be completely in over their heads.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nassib could start, Wilson would start halfway through year.

Smith depends on how simple the offense is.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Realistic QB options in no patricular order. Reply with quote

Cusi10 wrote:
Michael Vick - most likley is released and able to sign as he chooses. Had our chance to sign him and passed do we take a chance again. He will sell jerseys and put people in the seats. Can still sling it but his injury history is as bad if not worse than Kolb.


He was coming out of prison besides we'll have a new staff...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Realistic QB options in no patricular order. Reply with quote

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Cusi10 wrote:
Michael Vick - most likley is released and able to sign as he chooses. Had our chance to sign him and passed do we take a chance again. He will sell jerseys and put people in the seats. Can still sling it but his injury history is as bad if not worse than Kolb.


He was coming out of prison besides we'll have a new staff...


Not only was he coming from prison but we had some guy named Kurt who was sort of ok.

I hope we stay away though. Shell of his former self and looked downright terrible at times. Soundly outplayed by Kolb this season.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of all them I still like Kolb the best and want the team to draft a QB and then sign a vet as well. I am sick and tired of small school QB's. I want the team to draft a bigtime QB from a bigtime school. Not Fordham or San Diego State.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

#1CARDSFAN wrote:
Out of all them I still like Kolb the best and want the team to draft a QB and then sign a vet as well. I am sick and tired of small school QB's. I want the team to draft a bigtime QB from a bigtime school. Not Fordham or San Diego State.

OK, Tyler Bray it is! See what I'm saying? The school is but a minor consideration, the QB has got to have the physical & mental skills. The competition he faces matters some, but at the end of the day, the QB has got to be able to play well on the field and effectively lead in the huddle and the locker room.
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I could care less about school affiliation. Personal attributes, experience and coaching, that's all matters.
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Given our likely draft position and poor class of QB's, I think I'd prefer to keep Kolb and give him more protection, the first 4 games of this season were quite good and had a lot to do with Kolbs production
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Realistic QB options in no patricular order. Reply with quote

stchamp98 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Cusi10 wrote:
Michael Vick - most likley is released and able to sign as he chooses. Had our chance to sign him and passed do we take a chance again. He will sell jerseys and put people in the seats. Can still sling it but his injury history is as bad if not worse than Kolb.


He was coming out of prison besides we'll have a new staff...


Not only was he coming from prison but we had some guy named Kurt who was sort of ok.

I hope we stay away though. Shell of his former self and looked downright terrible at times. Soundly outplayed by Kolb this season.


Stafford, Rivers, Cutler, Luck have all been outplayed by Kolb according to numbers. 4 game sample doesn't mean anything.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Realistic QB options in no patricular order. Reply with quote

DirtyDez wrote:
stchamp98 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Cusi10 wrote:
Michael Vick - most likley is released and able to sign as he chooses. Had our chance to sign him and passed do we take a chance again. He will sell jerseys and put people in the seats. Can still sling it but his injury history is as bad if not worse than Kolb.


He was coming out of prison besides we'll have a new staff...


Not only was he coming from prison but we had some guy named Kurt who was sort of ok.

I hope we stay away though. Shell of his former self and looked downright terrible at times. Soundly outplayed by Kolb this season.


Stafford, Rivers, Cutler, Luck have all been outplayed by Kolb according to numbers. 4 game sample doesn't mean anything.


1. 5 games.
2. Kolb did outplay those guys. Luck is one of the lesser QBs in the whole league right now in terms of efficiency. Just because he's young and promising doesn't mean he's good now. Stafford's just laughable. To say he's got mechanical problems would be the understatement of the year. I'd taker Kolb for this season over both players really easily.

There's no spin for it, Michael Vick is bad. At his age, he isn't getting any better.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mechanical problems or not I'd take Stafford this year in a heart beat. It's not even close. He might go back to back 5,000 yard seasons.
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DirtyDez wrote:
Mechanical problems or not I'd take Stafford this year in a heart beat. It's not even close. He might go back to back 5,000 yard seasons.


Not too hard to go 5,000 yards back-to-back when you lead the league in pass attemps back-to-back and play with Calvin Johnson.

I'd take Stafford in a heartbeat too (And Luck) because he's got a significantly brighter future and with better coaching his flaws can be fixed. He's only 24 years old, it's a no brainer for the future of the franchise but for this season it'd be an easy choice to go with Kolb. If Vick was 24 it'd be the same deal. But he's not, he's 33 in June.
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