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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know kick offs aren't a huge deal but I'm not comfortable with Paul returning them. He fumbled and almost cost us a chance to win the game. You have to wonder if he will be back with the team. He can't catch and fumbled, but got lucky it was recovered out of bounds in his first chance as a full time kick off return man. He's a great gunner and good blocker, so possibly that saves him.

Anyways- I want Robinson or Crawford doing kick off returns with Paul blocking for them.


Times are desperate --Put Garcon back there if need be .. fast and tough!
you better be kidding Shame on you
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 - Niles Paul should have made that catch, but in fairness the pass should have been thrown earlier.

2 - Niles should also know that he cannot be held up like that as a KR, however let's not pretend that Banks did not fumble on a regular basis. Giving the coverage team an opportunity to get a hat on the ball is going to cause a fumble, no matter who's there.

3 - Niles Paul has added value as he plays an important role on offense playing a significant number of snaps, and he's become a very good gunner. Other than Lorenzo Alexander, he's the most valuable STs guy aside from the three involved in actually kicking (LS, P, K).

Niles Paul isn't going anywhere. Considering how many opportunities Banks got even with all of his fumbles, we shouldn't be asking for Paul's job if most were willing to give Banks a pass. Fact of the matter is Paul is much more valuable to this team than Banks. Give him a game or two to get comfortable back there.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1 - Niles Paul should have made that catch, but in fairness the pass should have been thrown earlier.

2 - Niles should also know that he cannot be held up like that as a KR, however let's not pretend that Banks did not fumble on a regular basis. Giving the coverage team an opportunity to get a hat on the ball is going to cause a fumble, no matter who's there.

3 - Niles Paul has added value as he plays an important role on offense playing a significant number of snaps, and he's become a very good gunner. Other than Lorenzo Alexander, he's the most valuable STs guy aside from the three involved in actually kicking (LS, P, K).

Niles Paul isn't going anywhere. Considering how many opportunities Banks got even with all of his fumbles, we shouldn't be asking for Paul's job if most were willing to give Banks a pass. Fact of the matter is Paul is much more valuable to this team than Banks. Give him a game or two to get comfortable back there.
no doubt. I'm not even lobbying for Banks here. I'm saying I want a guy like Crawford or Robinson (maybe Helu next year) back there with Paul. We need break away speed back there. Jacoby jones won the ravens the steelers game a month ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

turtle28 wrote:
RSkinGM wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
I know kick offs aren't a huge deal but I'm not comfortable with Paul returning them. He fumbled and almost cost us a chance to win the game. You have to wonder if he will be back with the team. He can't catch and fumbled, but got lucky it was recovered out of bounds in his first chance as a full time kick off return man. He's a great gunner and good blocker, so possibly that saves him.

Anyways- I want Robinson or Crawford doing kick off returns with Paul blocking for them.


Times are desperate --Put Garcon back there if need be .. fast and tough!
you better be kidding Shame on you


I'm all in at this point--Whomever, whatever it takes .. Twisted Evil
PS--He's only likely to have one or two opportunities a game .. I'm just talking kickoff returns with Crawford doing the punt returns.
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turtle28 wrote:
RSkinGM wrote:
turtle28 wrote:
I know kick offs aren't a huge deal but I'm not comfortable with Paul returning them. He fumbled and almost cost us a chance to win the game. You have to wonder if he will be back with the team. He can't catch and fumbled, but got lucky it was recovered out of bounds in his first chance as a full time kick off return man. He's a great gunner and good blocker, so possibly that saves him.

Anyways- I want Robinson or Crawford doing kick off returns with Paul blocking for them.


Times are desperate --Put Garcon back there if need be .. fast and tough!
you better be kidding Shame on you


I'm all in at this point--Whomever, whatever it takes .. Twisted Evil
PS--He's only likely to have one or two opportunities a game .. I'm just talking kickoff returns with Crawford doing the punt returns.
id rather see Robinson do it or Crawford do both.

Our offense is not the same without Garcon out there. He's also playing hurt. No need to risk more injury with our #1 wr
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